Singer 7-31

[Trox]

Hi Catskin,

Great, I love to see a picture of that machine. My hobby is to rebuild big German machines, but mostly cylinder bed machines that I can use in my leatherwork. Here is some pictures of two Adler 20`s, that was offered me as garden decorations. They did not have the right feed (no waking foot), but they both had high lift. To much rust, and long drive made me leaving them to die. They had that special hand wheel gear you might like to have on your machine.

Trox.

Thanks Trox.

This one tough old machine I replaced the leather belt drive with a chain by doing a little machineing to mount sprockets and made a speed reducer now it wil start off through 7/8 inch hard leather like its not there. No belt slipping like there was.

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Hi Catskin,

Great, I love to see a picture of that machine. My hobby is to rebuild big German machines, but mostly cylinder bed machines that I can use in my leatherwork. Here is some pictures of two Adler 20`s, that was offered me as garden decorations. They did not have the right feed (no waking foot), but they both had high lift. To much rust, and long drive made me leaving them to die. They had that special hand wheel gear you might like to have on your machine.

Trox.

I have a couple Adler 20 class machines laying around our shop here...never seen that geared drive on the handwheel before like that.

[Trox]

Hi Gregg,

Kochs Adler used that gear drive on several old models. On old class 4 and 5. And on an older flat bed saddler machine too (it is maybe a class 3, I do not know). I guess I was wrong about the feed on the Adler 20`s, the black one has a walking foot (see the presser foot bar without a foot on, the green one also have a hole for a extra presser bar) Those Adler 20 machines are not good on leather, to big and clumsy feet’s.

Trox

I have a couple Adler 20 class machines laying around our shop here...never seen that geared drive on the handwheel before like that.

A13.pdf

[Trox]

Adler 120- 8a feed with the front presser foot attached

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Hi Gregg,

Kochs Adler used that gear drive on several old models. On old class 4 and 5. And on an older flat bed saddler machine too (it is maybe a class 3, I do not know). I guess I was wrong about the feed on the Adler 20`s, the black one has a walking foot (see the presser foot bar without a foot on, the green one also have a hole for a extra presser bar) Those Adler 20 machines are not good on leather, to big and clumsy feet's.

Trox

Yeah, look at that thing. That gear is massive. Singer never did anything like that. At least, I've seen it.

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Ha!! just a little bit of surface rust.

With the lack of unusual machines around here I would have driven a long way or organized freight to pick those up.

I have actually sketched up a hand crank drive for a GR5-1 using that sort of gearing but with the balance wheel mounted at the front.

Hi Catskin,

Great, I love to see a picture of that machine. My hobby is to rebuild big German machines, but mostly cylinder bed machines that I can use in my leatherwork. Here is some pictures of two Adler 20`s, that was offered me as garden decorations. They did not have the right feed (no waking foot), but they both had high lift. To much rust, and long drive made me leaving them to die. They had that special hand wheel gear you might like to have on your machine.

Trox.

[Trox]

Hi Darren,

I made a choice. I do not have unlimited space to store them, or time to restore them. I decided to buy some other machines with cylinder bed instead. However, it was not an easy choice, they are very special, and do their work very well if restored. A new machine with the same rating will cost a fortune. Nevertheless, there is no marked for them here in Norway.

I can fill up a 40-foot’s container with old sewing machines and ship them down to you Darren. Those machine like Singer 29K 31- 15, 99, 66 sells for nothing her. They sell them for 45 $ in a second hand/ antique shop. When sold private, less than that. Here is a complete sewing shop for sale 49000 NOK (8450 USD). http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/tilsalgs/annonse?finnkode=32895008 The machines are not leather working, they are old but in good working conditions (click on the picture to see them all).

This shop has been for sale for a long time, and nobody wants it. The Norwegians has too much money, nobody want to work as an artisan any more.

We import all the stuff we need, the only thing we produce here is Oil, gas (bio plastic from oil) and fish. People like me, who works with their hands, do it because they love it, not for the money.

Nearly every week I see a story like this; a shoe repair shop or such for sale for less than nothing does.

(I have a complete shoe repair shop for sale my self, the owner went bankrupt and I help him rescuing his machines. Stored them in a friend’s rental stock. The owner could not pay any rent, he owns my friend four years of storage fees. We have to sell all his machines to cover the bill. The shop owner has disappeared, moved to a foreign country, nobody have heard from him since) this is a very sad but common story here in Norway; the cost of producing is too high to make a business.

Then again, it is no marked for second hands machines anymore. (The only machines who sells are big leatherworking ones with cylinder bed and such).

I have to take this in account when buying a machine to refurbish. I past on many machines like the Adler 20 and the Singer 7. Three to four years ago they was worth something, but with all the cheap Chinese machines doing the job for a fraction of the price, they will not sell anymore.

Ask the USA dealer.

　

Gregg;

when was the last time you sold one like that.

Find me a marked and I start to collect them.

Trox

Ha!! just a little bit of surface rust.

With the lack of unusual machines around here I would have driven a long way or organized freight to pick those up.

I have actually sketched up a hand crank drive for a GR5-1 using that sort of gearing but with the balance wheel mounted at the front.

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

If I had a stack of free funds I am crazy enough to take you up on that offer :brainbleach:

If I had no conscience I could probably sell 3 monster machines a week to people for fixing heavy horse rugs.

Hi Darren,

I made a choice. I do not have unlimited space to store them, or time to restore them. I decided to buy some other machines with cylinder bed instead. However, it was not an easy choice, they are very special, and do their work very well if restored. A new machine with the same rating will cost a fortune. Nevertheless, there is no marked for them here in Norway.

I can fill up a 40-foot's container with old sewing machines and ship them down to you Darren. Those machine like Singer 29K 31- 15, 99, 66 sells for nothing her. They sell them for 45 $ in a second hand/ antique shop. When sold private, less than that. Here is a complete sewing shop for sale 49000 NOK (8450 USD). http://www.finn.no/f...nnkode=32895008 The machines are not leather working, they are old but in good working conditions (click on the picture to see them all).

This shop has been for sale for a long time, and nobody wants it. The Norwegians has too much money, nobody want to work as an artisan any more.

We import all the stuff we need, the only thing we produce here is Oil, gas (bio plastic from oil) and fish. People like me, who works with their hands, do it because they love it, not for the money.

Nearly every week I see a story like this; a shoe repair shop or such for sale for less than nothing does.

(I have a complete shoe repair shop for sale my self, the owner went bankrupt and I help him rescuing his machines. Stored them in a friend's rental stock. The owner could not pay any rent, he owns my friend four years of storage fees. We have to sell all his machines to cover the bill. The shop owner has disappeared, moved to a foreign country, nobody have heard from him since) this is a very sad but common story here in Norway; the cost of producing is too high to make a business.

Then again, it is no marked for second hands machines anymore. (The only machines who sells are big leatherworking ones with cylinder bed and such).

I have to take this in account when buying a machine to refurbish. I past on many machines like the Adler 20 and the Singer 7. Three to four years ago they was worth something, but with all the cheap Chinese machines doing the job for a fraction of the price, they will not sell anymore.

Ask the USA dealer.

　

Gregg;

when was the last time you sold one like that.

Find me a marked and I start to collect them.

Trox

[Vincent Carpenter]

Hi,

I am new to this forum, have been working in leather for a few years, making saddles etc, mostly by hand. Have recently bought an Adler 20-2. There is an oil box on the back of the machine, does anyone know of its function? Does there exist any operating manuals for it? //Vincent in Sweden

[Trox]

HI Vincent,

please post a picture of it. Its probably a thread lube box, but then again. I have to see it before answering. The only documentations I know of is on this blog; of Thomas Brinkhoff, head of spare parts Dürkopp Adler. http://sew24.blogspot.no/p/downloads.html

I thinks its only part books available for it. However, you could maybe learn something from reading about its successor the Adler 120.

Good luck

Tor