168W101 Help

[wolfe9]

It might be helpful to post a pic of the current motor and clutch system . I think you are going to find that a servo will be the fastest and easiest way to go , all that is required to mount it to the table is to drill 3 holes thru the top of table and put in 3 carriage bolts , there is a lot of adjustment (slotted mounts on the motor ) so the holes don't have to be dead on . I bought a 111 on an old USM table and it has a similar set up as you have described and its not to hard to convert it over to a servo which I will do when I have time to look over the machine . Where are you located ?

If you cant just drill the table because the old mount is in the way and can't be unbolted then put up some pics and we will see what we need to do , don't get to frustrated Im sure there is a fix (wish I could take my own advice LOL ) If you need help with an adapter plate I can help you with that as well ..

A side note on the servos , I am new to all this as well and did a bit of research on the servos before I bought one (after it was recommended by a repairman in NC ) there are cheaper servo motors available BUT the one that Bob sells is the only one that I have seen that has built in gear reductions and what I have been told is that some of the others don't have the same power at very slow speeds (they don't reach rated output at low speed ) .... The servo motor is a totally different animal then what you have now , they don't run all the time , they work just like a variable speed drill (best way I could think to describe it ) another up side is that they only draw juice when you are sewing ..

Edited July 5, 2011 by wolfe9

[Plenty Coups Archery]

I am in Darby,MT. Not the end of the earth but we see the edge pretty clearly from a hilltop! One half of the store is Plenty Coups Archery and we serve traditional archery shooters (no wheels,cams, sites or releases here lol ) and the other side is my wife's store. She owns Pinnacle Sewing Service. She has been sewing for 40. She has several machines 2 of which are industrial (one for long arm quilting and the other a Consew for sewing bicycle goods for a custom bicycle manufacturer and general repairs for backpacks etc.

I like making leather goods for the traditional archery,hence the purchase of the 168w101.

btw PCA is a fine abbreviation for Plenty Coups Archery.

[Plenty Coups Archery]

pic 1 of the MACHINE!

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[Plenty Coups Archery]

pic 3

[wolfe9]

It looks like unbolting what you have and putting on a servo would be easy , that is the way I would go , it would mount just like the motors on the machines your wife has .

[Wizcrafts]

pic 1 of the MACHINE!

pic 2

A servo motor will require you to drill all new holes. It will NOT bolt into the existing four hole pattern. The holes are usually 1/2 inch diameter, for 3/8" carriage bolts and nuts..

[Plenty Coups Archery]

I am sure the SEWPRO is the way I'll have to go. Unbolt the carriage and motor and mount the new one directly to the table. I can get belts from NAPA. I'll probably go with one of the link belts. They seem to run smoother on my woodworking machines. They are available in several sizes from industrial pulleys to the small stuff like sewing machines.

[Wizcrafts]

I am sure the SEWPRO is the way I'll have to go. Unbolt the carriage and motor and mount the new one directly to the table. I can get belts from NAPA. I'll probably go with one of the link belts. They seem to run smoother on my woodworking machines. They are available in several sizes from industrial pulleys to the small stuff like sewing machines.

You may or may not be able to get the correct belt from NAPA. The pulley on both the servo motor and machine is a sewing specification type 3L, which is 3/8" wide on the outside of the V taper. However, I guaran-dang-tee that the dealer who sells you the motor will have the correct v-belt, which is totally smooth on the inside. The link belt you described will not play nice on your sewing machine. Just measure the original and subtract the number of inches difference in the size of the old pulley, versus the new one and allow another inch shorter for the motor being closer to the body than the original. Judging by the photo of your tall post machine and the big clutch pulley under it, you probably have at least a 45 inch belt now, meaning you'll end up with about a 3 or 4 inch shorter belt for the SewPro motor.

If the replacement belt is too long, you can cut it to the right length, with the motor just above the middle position in the adjuster, then use a steel C clamp, for a treadle patcher belt, to fasten the ends together. Tension the belt downward for about 1/2 inch light fingertip deflection at the middle of its length.

[Plenty Coups Archery]

Yes our NAPA carries the 3L , 4L and about everything else. The 3L on it now came from NAPA. It is 59". It will need a MUCH shorter one since this motor will mount directly to the table.