Anybody Know This Machine?

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Hi Trox,

I was lucky enough to have a play with a 42-5 recently (a pin was missing from the shuttle) and yes I know there are differences which is why I pointed out that it is possibly the machine Singer copied. The handwheel is certainly not a Singer but accessories like lube pots are not always original.

Hi Darren,

I do not know if, or what Singer copied to make the 42-5. But the 42-5 looks different. It has a rounded needle plate an alternating

pressers. I have only seen the 42-5 in a picture, but it is different in many other ways to. The lube pot, and so on. I am sure you know your Singers , But this machine is a Adler 4 or a 45K. I will bet 5 Eur it is a Adler class 4.

Trox:no:

[sandyt]

Hi there,

Luckily I don't live in the smallest house of Holland!! Love the Belgian Ardennes. Not allot of true nature around here. Only small houses, haha...

Made a picture of the shuttle. It says KAW??? Hope it helps.

I ordered a few bobbins, hope the will fit.

Do you happen to know if Necchi made machines like these?Came across one and I am interested in that one too, because it has a table and an electric motor. I can put both machines on it. The more machines the better!! My nine year old son on one side and me on the other would be great!

Sandy.

[Trox]

Hello Sandy,

The Ardennes is great; we use to go paddling kayaks in the river up in Malmedy. 60 - 70 neighbors from our Buren in Antwerp, we rented a buses and I was always the driver. Great fun. Almost every weekend we did something together with our neighbors. I really miss my time there.

We have great nature in Norway to, but we newer go in a flock. We want to be alone in the wilderness and get pissed if we meet some body. I am going up north to fish to night, the summer arrived at last.

Back to our tread;

Yes this is proof enough; the shuttle is an open frame Adler.

I believe KAW is short for Kochs Adler Werke. The name of the company was Kochs Adler Nähmaschinewerke AG Bielefeld from 1913 to 1971. In 1971 the company was reformed to Kochs Adler AG And in 1990 to Dürkopp Adler AG (source http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/en/main/company/chronic.html )

Adler was just a Name for the machines. This places your machine to be from the years between 1971 to 1913, I can not find any information about when they change the decals on their machines. But on my oldest Adler machine it has an Eagle with “Kochs Adler Nähmaschinewerke AG Bielefeld “ around. The newer machines only have “Adler” printed on them. Here is some info on the machine classes (for export machines, the list is not complete): http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/export/sites/duerkoppadler/commons/download/download-text-attachments/hist_kl.pdf.

The sewing machine production was started up again after WW2 in 1945, I believe it is likely they changed their logo then. Yours is maybe a pre war machine.

Anybody who have more information about this please let us know.

I do not know much about Necchi machines and I never seen models like the Adler 4 or 5, but I know they make models like the class 30 and Singer 29K shoe repair machines.

If you want the manual send me your email in a PM.

Greetings

Trox

[sandyt]

Thanks!!!

Good/friendly neighbours makes life so much more fun.

Hope you cauhgt some big ones!!

Yesterday I caught a whole bunch of nothing. It was a sad day.......... .

I am happy to know it's an Adler. I could never identify it myself. So thanks again.

This old machine infected me a little. I have set my eyes on another adler(or Necchi) and/or a pearson no.6. Both 100 euro's each. I will say it again, if only I had some more space....haha.

i would love to have a manual, I will pm you.

Greetings from Holland.

Sandy.

[CowboyBob]

Sandy,

Get that Pearson as soon as you can,they are worth at least 2000 euros over here.

Have any pics of the Necchi?

Bob

[sandyt]

Are you for real??? 2000????

Why? Are they collectors items, or are they realy good stitchers. Can't imagine they are worth 2000.

I will have a look at it tomorrow anyway. If the shuttle is in there I will buy it. The seller doesn't know anything about sewingmachines so he couldn't answer any of my questions.

The Necchi is the first picture. So the seller told me so. I don't think its a Necchi because I couldn't find any info about Necchi sewingmachines looking like this. I think its an Adler, singer or something like that.

Sandy.

[CowboyBob]

The Pearsons are great machines that will sew a real nice looking stitch & will sew pretty thick leather.Does he have the treadle stand for it?

That Necchi looks alot like your other machine you just bought so maybe pass on it & save your $$ for Pearson parts,in case it neds them.

Bob

[sandyt]

Hi there Bob,

Unfortunatly the treadle stand isn't there. So I have to opperate everything by hand. Have to take a good look at the machine tomorrow as I realy don't know this machine, how it opperates and stuf. Don't realy know where to look for. Only saw a short video on youtube. But that wasn't realy revealing. It is gonna be an exiting day for me, haha... I will let you know if I bought it or not.

Sandy.

[sandyt]

Oh, I passed on the Necchi. Think I will be needing the money for the Pearson indeed.

Sandy.

[Trox]

Hi Sandy!

Hurrry up and buy that Pearson, I have never seen a machine like that for sale in Europe. And 100 Euro is nothing. This is like Bob says a real saddler machine, flatbed class 4 or 45k is easy to find. The saddlers in the US who has a Pearson like that still use them and will never part with them. I am sure there are members here who can learn you about it. What more did he have for sale?

I got your Pm and I will send you the manual. That web site is not updated on many years, it is only old stuff there. I have no time to work with it.

Trox

Oh, I passed on the Necchi. Think I will be needing the money for the Pearson indeed.

Sandy.