S.e.w. Line 106-Rpl Any One Know About These

[cowcamp]

Cowcamp;

Do you realize that you are now willing to spend the kind of money that will probably get you a really good used machine from one of our dealers; one already setup to sew leather and guaranteed to work? Have you called any of our dealers yet? I know Bob Kovar personally and have been to his building, in Toledo, Ohio. It is over-run with sewing machines, of all types of feed and configuration. His toll free business number is 866-362-7397.

Yes sir I have been to the website for Mr kovar

Haven't called cause I didn't se any used machines. Just new ones and 1200 or more will get me divorced

I'm sure shipping would be quite a bit as well and these machines are in a saddlery here in town that's closing up

I don't really want to spend 5 to 700 and am only able to because

I'm selling my 31-15 and my 66 together the rest of the money. I rebuilt both of them

And have no desire to lose them. But choices have to be made and that's what happens.

I understand from reading posts on here for over a year

(also from when you told me what I had when I

Pulled that landis 1 from the dirt last winter) that your knoledge

of machines is very large and respected by myself as well.

Please let me know what ya think as I value you thoughts and opinion

But understand I'm in south Texas. Starting a shop from scratch on no money

Thanks so much to all

[Wizcrafts]

Yes sir I have been to the website for Mr kovar

Haven't called cause I didn't se any used machines. Just new ones and 1200 or more will get me divorced

I'm sure shipping would be quite a bit as well and these machines are in a saddlery here in town that's closing up

Most of our dealers only list their new machines on their websites. Used machines come and go. Some are on shelves, waiting to be cleaned, adjusted, setup and shipped only when sold. That's why there are no used machines listed on the Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines website. There are hundreds of used machines in the building, and hundreds more in his storage location. His phone number is listed prominently on the top and bottom of every page.

I have to believe that the same holds true for just about every other dealer on this forum. They are all sewing machine dealers who happen to specialize in leather capable sewing machines and true heavy leather stitchers.

You have been asking for our opinions about machines mostly offered by eBay dealers, or other auction sites. I can't help you in that area, but, maybe someone can and will. Unless one of our dealers is also selling on eBay, my sewing machine loyalties tend to stay on this forum, with only a few minor exceptions (mostly accessories). I have yet to see an eBay seller recommend someone look on our forums for a real leather sewing machine.

One should also consider what type of support they can expect from the seller, no matter where they have their store. EBayers may offer you email or eBay Messages support, and some may give you a daytime West Coast phone number to call in the event of an emergency. But, very few will pick up the phone after hours and talk you through a self repair to re-time or un-jam your machine, or email you a how its threaded picture. Our people are noted for their customer support after the sale. Some of our people will only answer the phone when they are in their business. Others may give their customers a private cellphone number, for help anytime.

About shipping costs. I have a personal friend who just recently shipped a complete Adler patcher and cast iron base, from Flint Michigan to upper California, on a pallet, for $220 (they manually loaded it onto the trailer from a pickup truck, saving $40 for a lift gate fee). A fully assembled walking foot machine (w/motor and table, etc) wouldn't cost much, if any more, shipped on a pallet to South Texas. Rates vary between trucking companies and competition is strong for freight, right now.

For those who already have a spare table, frame and motor, having a 70 pound head only shipped usually costs somewhere about $40 to $50, via UPS or FedEx. But, some folks think they will save money by buying a head from one dealer and a table/frame/motor/ bobbin winder/thread stand/ flex lamp from another. They are usually mistaken and end up paying considerably more that way.

[Wizcrafts]

Sorry, I missed the part about the machines being in a local shop that was closing down. Take some leather over there and try them out. The company must have thread on hand and needles. If they sew what you want a machine to sew, buy it or them. If not, keep looking.

I worked my way up through over a dozen industrial sewing machines before I found the right one for what I was making at that time.

[Zeppi]

Hello from Vienna! 

Sorry for my english is not very good...

I also found this sewline 106 rpl an it guided me to this site. I really hope you can help me. I did not sleep the last 14 days because this leather sewing problem is running circles in my head. I sew handbags and really love it. I started 2 years ago with an old elita from my granny. Sometimes i had to sew crossings? By hand. À few weeks ago i bought a singer heavy duty. She made it for half a bag before she gave up. 

So i need something else. I love the idea of having a zoje, but the Problem is more the space then the money. Please can you recommend a handy machine? 

Kind regards Sabine