Adler 5-37 Only Bottom Feed? (Ser.nr. 30265)

[Trox]

Hi Sandy,

Yes it is the forerunner to the 105-25, Is has some improvements, but it is very similar. The 105 has a bigger bobbin, the take-up lever is on the front, but most important you can still get parts for it. Nevertheless, they perform the same, the steel quality might be better on the old one. I have a never Adler 204- 64 needle feed, (same as the 205 but flatbed). The old class 5 is a much better sewing machine than the newer 204. Better built, better quality on parts, it performs much better to.

Many people who have the 204 or 205-64 needle feed brag about how good they are on leather. I do not think so, they do not like to sew uphill or down hill (increase or decrease thickness); it is no good for that. However, that is no problem for the 5-27; it jumps right up or down. The stitch looks uniform and good to. The only problem is the markings the feed dog makes on the backside of the work. To avoid that you must buy a triple feed machine and drop the feed dog down (or with a special needle plate like the Chinese “441” leather machines have)

500 Euro for the 105 machine is a very good price, they sold a 105-64 private here for 2850 Euro last year. I know of one to, a 105-25 for sale in north Sweden for 390 Euro. But it is a 2000 km drive from me. And I am not buying an other leather machine if it is not an upgrade, it must be a 205-370 or a 411 clone. The Chinese machines affect the prices; you get much for the money there.

Trox

I have been looking at that wheel a few times but didn't know what was 'wrong'. Now you are mentioning it I see it! Haha...

When I go there I will make a picture of the groove.

If my boss pays in time I will have a look this weekend. If not, the next weekend.

I guess it's quite the same as the Adler 105-25 isn't it?

I know (have read) for you guys 350 euro's isn't realy expensive but I gues the prices over here are a bit lower?

Very very few people in Holland sew by themselves.

I think one of the 'problems' is that the houses are small, 'big' houses are rediculous expensive in Holland so people don't have much space to store such machines.

There is an electric Adler 105 for sale now for 'only' 500 euro's. Looks realy nice.

If someone is interested give me a PM for that link.

Sandy.

[sandyt]

Hi Trox,

What do you mean with drop the feed dog down? Like taking it out so it has no function? Or let the feed dog push less hard by making the needle plate thicker?

2000 km is a hell of a drive for a machine!!! Haha.

Sandy.

[Trox]

Hi Sandy,

The height is adjustable, set it to the same level as the needle plate or a little under. It still helps, but it will not make those ugly markings. On those 411 Clones, you get special needle plates that cover the feed dog.

I am an old truck driver but 2000 km is far, especially when you have a similar machine at home.

I drove steady route on Holland for two years, Oslo- Holland once a week. My forwarder in Holland was a company called Rutex in Alpen an D`Rein (many years ago). I have been everywhere in your Holland and a like it very much. By the way, I’m sure we have bigger houses and space in Norway, but my house is full of machines to.

Trox

Hi Trox,

What do you mean with drop the feed dog down? Like taking it out so it has no function? Or let the feed dog push less hard by making the needle plate thicker?

2000 km is a hell of a drive for a machine!!! Haha.

Sandy.

[sandyt]

Oke Trox, now I get it.

Rutex logistics still excists by the way. I realy envy and admire international truck drivers. I could never drive that far. Once I drove 1000 km to Germany on Holiday. I will never ever do that again. I guess my old and rusty 82' Range Rover doesn't have the right seats for that distance haha..

If sewingmachines was my only hobby I would be oke with the small house. But there are a few way to big planetary mixers and meat mincers here and there also. They al compete for space! And than there are the fishing rods...................... and...................

I realy have to cut some hobbies down because the sewingmachine hobby is getting to big.

sandy.

[Trox]

I still exist, This was some 20 years a go. I Can still drive 1000 km in my old volvo 245 for a sewing machine/ leather machine with out sleep, no problemo.I think it because of where I was born we had to drive 300 km to the next town. In Benelux there it is no spaces between citys. This weekend fishing trip is about 600 km drive, It is normal for. I also have fishing for a hobby, mostly fly fishing for trout. But also sea fishing from boat. What is a planetary mixer? and meat mincers? I do not know.

Trox

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Oke Trox, now I get it.

Rutex logistics still excists by the way. I realy envy and admire international truck drivers. I could never drive that far. Once I drove 1000 km to Germany on Holiday. I will never ever do that again. I guess my old and rusty 82' Range Rover doesn't have the right seats for that distance haha..

If sewingmachines was my only hobby I would be oke with the small house. But there are a few way to big planetary mixers and meat mincers here and there also. They al compete for space! And than there are the fishing rods...................... and...................

I realy have to cut some hobbies down because the sewingmachine hobby is getting to big.

sandy.

[sandyt]

Took a day off today to have a look at the machine. I Just couldn't wait for tomorrow. I bought it. It sewed realy smooth. Spare needles and bobbins.

I already bought all the stuff to make it electric powered, but now I don't know if I want to mess with it. I like the looks off it some how. It's not it's original stand. This one also misses the footlift lever. I don't mind.

Here's a pic of the groove you mentioned Trox. I guess its made for a V-belt. Or the leather belt is to small. It falls right in. A v-belt fits perfectly.

Also bought a Frabona sole stitcher. Didn't have this one yet.

Anybody interested in an Adler 20-2? He also had this one for sale. 500 euro's. Good price I guess? PM me for more info. Also a few patchers.

Sandy.

I forgot. A planetary mixer is a machine to kneed dough, whip cream, or mix batter. A meat mincer is a machine to make minced meat. For making sausage and meatballs and such.

Edited September 2, 2011 by sandyt

[sandyt]

I'm sorry. Pics are a little to big.

[amuckart]

Frobana/Gritzner are neat machines, built like clocks. Useless for anything other than outsoling shoes but quite good at that if you can get needles for them.

[Trox]

Hi Sandy,

Congratulations with the new machine.

About the belt groove; it must be flat in the bottom for a V belt, this one looks like it is.

It is not easy to see on the pic. The original grooves are V shaped, without a flat bottom. A V belt will twist it self upside down in it.

I have that problem on my machine, but I have used the V belt for a long time and it is still fine.

I need to have much tension on it to keep it in the groove, and I am afraid the machine bearings will wear out. That is why I want to make a new groove live yours.

Adler never stops to amaze me, when I think I know every model they produced. An other one always turns up. This sub class 5-37 is not in the list of subclasses in my class 5 partlist or in the Dürkopp Adler export list of sewing machine classes.

I have never been able to find a complete inventory of all the machines they made. Even of the modern 205 and 204 machines, it keeps popping up new sub classes all the time, subclasses who are never mention any place. I think a lot was lost in the WW2, but after war, it is the same story to.

If anybody have any information about this please share it with us.

Thanks

Trox

That class 20-2 is a bottom feed with low lift, sewing only up to 16 mm thick according to my information. I guess it could be modified the same way that Sewmun explained about the Singer 7 class, it still would not be a good leather machine.

Sandy is you a chef or do you produce food for sale? Or do you just have to many kids feed?

Trox

[sandyt]

Used such machines for knife sheats and dress belts once in a while. Nowadays I use other machines for that but I Like to 'collect' those small machines. I like to see all the moving parts to work. Junker sd28 and the Pearson #6 are my favorite so far. Needle and awl machines are very cool to watch too.

By the way, needles are pretty easy to find overhere? 4 or 5 euro's each. They are short and strong so they don't break easily.

Sandy.