benlilly1 Report post Posted September 24, 2011 Leather workers, Here is a photo of what I'm working on. I need this to look like a bullet hole and it will be in black leather. I got the image off of the internet but when tooled it looks like a odd flower. I need depth where the bullet goes through and any suggestions otherwise I'd appreciate. Thanks a bunch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodandsteel Report post Posted September 24, 2011 Shoot it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benlilly1 Report post Posted September 24, 2011 I guess that would work!! Shoot it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted September 25, 2011 I've never tried a bullet hole. Maybe if you really bevel the edges down and then do the same thing inside where the hole is. Might work might not. The one you have done looks pretty neat to me. If you were to shoot it your going to have round hole nothing like what your going for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benlilly1 Report post Posted September 25, 2011 Also because it's on black I can't get any depth to show up so I have to make up for that in how I bevel or tool. I've never tried a bullet hole. Maybe if you really bevel the edges down and then do the same thing inside where the hole is. Might work might not. The one you have done looks pretty neat to me. If you were to shoot it your going to have round hole nothing like what your going for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete Report post Posted September 25, 2011 I wouldn't out a border around it. Jagged hole and lots of spiderwebbing/cracks. Have you seen the fake (plastic, clear, stick on) bullet holes that you get at a joke store to make it look like someone shot your windshield? Check out google for joke stores, pranks, etc. pete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Just though a petal lifter might work. What about dry bushing some silver or gray highlights if it has to be black. Edited September 25, 2011 by dirtclod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benlilly1 Report post Posted September 25, 2011 Thanks Pete I'll check that out and I'll try without border... dirtclod- I thought of that but I've never petal lifted. I would like to learn but I need the tool to do this also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted September 25, 2011 You can make a petal lifter out a screw driver or a awl. Cut the end off and and grind or sand a bevel on it. Strop it and your ready to go. try lifting on a scrap piece it's easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moeg Report post Posted September 25, 2011 I thought i'd give it a try and it's either a bullet hole or a blob. The only tools used were a modeling spoon and the other end of a background tool Sorry about the quality of the pic, it's from my cell phone. Moe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackey Cole Report post Posted September 25, 2011 Try using a Sheridan beveler instead of the crafttool ones, the angle is steeper, Also fill the "hole" in using a USMC Black instead of the common black. It looks as you are using the sprit dyes instead of oil dyes. Myself I prefer the latter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted September 25, 2011 The problem is that you are trying to use the wrong image. That image is of a bullet hole that has gone through a piece of sheet metal that has both a final coating and a primer coating. The square like frame around the hole is designed to look like the primer, . . . Typically, . . . that is the image of a bullet hole in a car body. Enclosed is a 240 grain, jacketed hollow point, +/- 700 feet per second, .45 caliber, at about 8 feet, . . . going through a 9 oz piece of veggie tan. The quarter is to help you determine the relative size. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slider Report post Posted September 26, 2011 I have never tried this buy you might try using an undercut beveler to make it look more like the edges are rolled back. by the bullet. Leather workers, Here is a photo of what I'm working on. I need this to look like a bullet hole and it will be in black leather. I got the image off of the internet but when tooled it looks like a odd flower. I need depth where the bullet goes through and any suggestions otherwise I'd appreciate. Thanks a bunch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benlilly1 Report post Posted September 26, 2011 Thanks for all the replies everyone. And thanks for the photo Dwight. That helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladykahu Report post Posted September 26, 2011 Gotta love this forum !!! Only here would someone go and shoot a bit of leather for someone else to see what it really looks like ! Gave me a good chuckle thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suicide Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Only here would someone go and shoot a bit of leather for someone else to see what it really looks like ! Seriously, guys, don't waste a time on carving these holes. Bring your masterpieces to Mr. Dwight to let him make his nice decorative shots! And remember leather must be properly cased to help Mr. Dwight do great, deep and crisp holes Sorry for flood but I also gotta love this forum for such a great guys here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGGUNDOCTOR Report post Posted January 14, 2012 If you can't have a hole completely through the item, take something like the handle used for 3-D stamps, or whatever caliber you want, and use that to do the hole. Then bevel down to the depth of the flattened area in a smooth radius, rough edged, or whatever look you want to portray.. Where I see a problem is getting it to stand out as a hole, and not just a decorative design. Like Dwight showed, a real bullet hole has a darker ring which is caused by lead ,or bullet lube, rubbing off onto the item shot. As the bullet pierces the item it curves in before opening up. On soft targets like paper, or leather the sides will spring back after the bullet passes through. That is for standard shaped bullets. Wadcutters, bullets that have a flat nose, and are used in target shooting, will actually punch a hole like a hole punch. To get this to show up as a bullet hole I feel that you will need to highlight it in some fashion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sylvia Report post Posted January 14, 2012 Gotta love this forum !!! Only here would someone go and shoot a bit of leather for someone else to see what it really looks like ! Gave me a good chuckle thanks guys Ha ha ha... I completely agree. Awesome job Dwight. If that darned leather isn't cooperating.... Shoot it! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted January 15, 2012 If you are imitating the look of a hole through black painted metal, like your bike fender, the hole is a shadow and won't be as "black" as the black paint. If there is light on the other side, then it will be a bright spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites