What Is "pop-Stitching" And How Does It Work?

[Aurelie]

i started with the introduction but now i ve got a "big" question

it's the second time i come across the "situation"

I tried to think about it but can't come with an acceptable solution

Maybe someone can explain it to me

Here is the thing :

i ve seen an antique saddle on which someone replaced the patted seat WITHOUT removing and changing the binding neither the seat itself

it looked like it was nailed on the older seat

what it's bogling me :

Dale told me :

"if you want to change a seat, you have to rip it off along with the binding a make a new seat + a new binding"

Ok

then How can you replace patted seat without removing the original binding?

then i received the last issue of leathercrafters'journal and they shown restoration of an antique saddle

where they changed the patted seat without removing the original binding!

..again...

no nails here

but they speak about "pop-stitching"

i searched on google but can't find an explanation about it

what does that mean? how does that work?

someone can "light my bulb" here?

and i guess i do not need to say :

i want a "clean" way to do it not something superficial

just because my motto is :

Do it the right way or do not do it at all

[King's X]

You should go to Dick's website and send him to explain that term you found in his LCSJ article. He seems to be a very nice guy and will probably have no problem answering it for you. Here is his website: www.shererssaddlesinc.com. Dick also has a book on restoring saddles that you can order directly from him.

You might also try one of your local Frenchmen by the name of Aloin Alain Eon who has published a book titled "Restoring Vintage Western Saddles" He is one of my friends on Facebook and he can probably help you as well.

I wish I had more information for you, sorry!

[TwinOaks]

It almost sounds like pressing the thread down into the holes with no penetration to the back side. I suppose if there was a little barb or some epoxy to hold it, it'd be about as strong as any stitch. I'm thinking the term is like "pop rivet" where the fastener is installed from only one side.

[Aurelie]

Thx Twinoaks

i thought about "pop rivet" , got those at home but i could not figure out how it could be done similarly with stitching

huh

now i am wondering how this is done....

if someone is luckier than me and find the process on internet or if someone can explain me the process that would be nice 'cause now i am even more curious about it! (not that i plan to do it soon...)

BTW, i love your :"Teach what you know ...learn what you don't"

Edited September 29, 2011 by Aurelie

[gary]

I was taught pop-stitching using one needle and one thread. It's just a running stitch - in, out. Sort of half saddle stitch, if you get my meaning. the stitch length could be quite long, e.g. only 2 or 3 stitches per inch. It was sometimes used to hold pieces of leather together to keep them in place while the proper, finished, stitching was completed. The other place it was used was to attach the saddle panels to the seat and tree assembly on English saddles. In the last instance a curved needle with thick thread (1.4mm) was used.

Hope that helps.

Gary

[Aurelie]

I was taught pop-stitching using one needle and one thread. It's just a running stitch - in, out. Sort of half saddle stitch, if you get my meaning. the stitch length could be quite long, e.g. only 2 or 3 stitches per inch. It was sometimes used to hold pieces of leather together to keep them in place while the proper, finished, stitching was completed. The other place it was used was to attach the saddle panels to the seat and tree assembly on English saddles. In the last instance a curved needle with thick thread (1.4mm) was used.

Hope that helps.

Gary

ok gary, i "see" the trick with a curved needle

thanks for thoses explanations!

[TwinOaks]

Keep in mind that I'm not a saddle maker, I'm just interested in the 'pop-stitching', and offering some thoughts.

[Aurelie]

Keep in mind that I'm not a saddle maker, I'm just interested in the 'pop-stitching', and offering some thoughts.

saddle maker or not

from where i sit, all i can say is working with leather is working with leather and all is about experiencing and trying some tricks....whatever can work, works for me!

here is how i see things :

i am really curious about how things are done (whatever the way)

i just want to find the best way that works for me and for what i am doing

i was wondering about "pop stitching" a patted seat because it just boggled me...and it still boggles me!

anyway, thanks to all of you for the replies!

and feel free to give your opinion about this one too (cause it boggles me too) :

My link

more for saddle makers this one

but who knows