Members CustomDoug Posted October 11, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 11, 2011 OK, so sounds like a "piping foot" and a "welting foot" are essentially the same thing. Sounds too like the way to go on the piping itself, then I suppose a zipper foot for sandwiching the piping in between a seem, probably? I'll put some thought into which zipper foot side (left/right) would be most beneficial - I think "right side" taking into account the bulk of the material laying on the table. BTW, I do check youtube sometimes, but always seem to get sidetracked. Quote Does Anyone Know Where the Love of God Goes When the Waves Turn Minutes to Hours?
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 11, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) OK, so sounds like a "piping foot" and a "welting foot" are essentially the same thing. Sounds too like the way to go on the piping itself, then I suppose a zipper foot for sandwiching the piping in between a seem, probably? I'll put some thought into which zipper foot side (left/right) would be most beneficial - I think "right side" taking into account the bulk of the material laying on the table. BTW, I do check youtube sometimes, but always seem to get sidetracked. Yes, a piping foot is the same as a welting foot. Piping is sometimes the inside cord and sometimes the finished round product. You can buy premade cloth, leather and vinyl piping, or make it yourself with rope or piping cord. There are four types of piping/welting presser feet. Standard piping foot cut-off back piping foot double piping foot double cut-off piping foot The standard foot or feet have a channel going all the way from the front to the back of the left side of the outer (walking foot) or single (straight stitch) foot. If walking foot, the inner foot also has a channel or arc cut into it, although it is rather short. The cut-off style uses the same inside foot (for walking feet), but, the back is ground off and radiused to allow the foot to turn sharp corners. Upholsterers often turn a sharp corner on covers and replacement coverings. A standard welting foot pushes the material into a straight line and fights the operator around hard curves. The double channel piping sets are used to lay down two rows at the same time, of the same size piping. This is a decorative effect used by upholsterers. Zipper walking feet have one toe: right or left, plus a narrower than usual inside foot. Straight stitch zipper feet are either movable left to right, or pre-made for sewing on the left or right edge. The single feet have a wide flat profile, with a cutout for the needle. You can literally sew right up the the side of the raised edges of any kind of project with a flat zipper foot. Unfortunately, the same does not apply to walking foot sets. The inside foot occupies at least 3/16" width, placing the needle about 1/16" away from the edge being sewn. I do have one very narrow left toe set that gets very close to the raised area, which is on its right side. In the brave new world of the 441 clone machine, the presser foot design is nothing like the usual walking or flat foot machines. The standard feet that ship with the machines from China are a very wide set, with aggressive teeth on the bottom. They have a matching feed dog, with similar teeth on it. This set is known as a blanket foot set. It is used to provide flawless traction for sewing blankets, buffing wheels, tarps, awnings, parachutes, etc. Most leather workers don't want to have tooth marks on either side of the leather, so, the dealers contract to have a smooth top feed dog made and what are known a harness feet. These feet have no steel in the rear middle area. They have a single left, or right toe, or a combination double toe configuration. The double toe is now shipped to the end customer as standard equipment. The dealers remove the blanket feet and the feed dog with the teeth and replace them with a harness foot set and smooth feed dog. There are very few optional presser feet for the 441 clones. Were that they were Adler 205 clones, which some of the Cowboy machines are, then one could buy optional Adler feet for special uses. A single toe Adler foot has steel in the rear middle section. Some jobs are better sewn without any steel in the middle, others benefit from the extra support provided by rear-middle steel on the work. Don't forget, these machines are triple feed and have a moving inside foot. One type of outer foot that is experimental is a single-center toe, behind the inside foot. This is either cut from an unwanted blanket foot, or made in a metal shop. Such a foot would only provide support to the leather behind the inner foot, to the rear of it's maximum travel. It would allow one to sew handcuff type cases with a narrow stitching flange, right side up. It could also be used to repair stitches on shoe out-soles. I think that most dealers have a grinder, sander and buffer that could create such a uni-pod rear foot from a blanket foot. Bob Kovar made one and a picture of it is on his webpages for the CB3500, 4500 and 5500 machines. Go to, say, the CB4500 page, find the underlined link for "See more photos of our optional pressor feet and throat plates for the CB3500, 4500 and 5500 models."and click on it to reveal a slideshow along the bottom of the page. One of the feet is the uni-pod set. It was experimental. Edited October 11, 2011 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members CustomDoug Posted October 11, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 11, 2011 Wow Wiz, what can I say.... will take me a while to digest this info, very concise as usual. Don't think it's not appreciated, it is. I'm off to read it again.. Quote Does Anyone Know Where the Love of God Goes When the Waves Turn Minutes to Hours?
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 11, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 11, 2011 Wow Wiz, what can I say.... will take me a while to digest this info, very concise as usual. Don't think it's not appreciated, it is. I'm off to read it again.. Doug; I don't know what you are referring to as if that was a lot of information. I only typed 4167 characters, encompassing just 752 words. Shouldn't take ya more than a minute to read it all! Some of my security blog posts are double that amount of characters and words. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members CustomDoug Posted October 11, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 11, 2011 haha... it's just that it takes me a while to wrap my head around statements like this (for instance) - "One type of outer foot that is experimental is a single-center toe, behind the inside foot." These things make since after I read 'em a few times. Quote Does Anyone Know Where the Love of God Goes When the Waves Turn Minutes to Hours?
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 11, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 11, 2011 haha... it's just that it takes me a while to wrap my head around statements like this (for instance) - "One type of outer foot that is experimental is a single-center toe, behind the inside foot." These things make since after I read 'em a few times. Here's a photo of the trailing uni-pod "outer" foot set. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members CustomDoug Posted October 11, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 11, 2011 ah, "I see" said the blind man. Quote Does Anyone Know Where the Love of God Goes When the Waves Turn Minutes to Hours?
Members SHYNEJACOB Posted March 17, 2016 Members Report Posted March 17, 2016 CustomDoug, You didn't mention what subclass 206RB, but the newest owners book can be applied to at least 95% of all model machines. I have avaible for download on our Consew 206RB-5 product page full parts book and owners manual, both avaible for free download; Consew 206RB-5 product page with OWNER and PARTS books If you need another 206RB book, for 206RB, -1, -2, -3, -4, (SH or TH serial number prefix) let me know. If still available I would like a copy of the 206RB Manual , No -1,-2. Just 206RB . Thank you Quote
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