Breathtaking Prices On Pfaff Parts And Accessories.

[Trox]

I just purchased a second hand Pfaff 345- H3-6C-LN

I want to set up this machine for leather binding, and the best will be a synchronized leather binder.

So far I spend 271 $ for the machine. (It was a bargain)

250 $ for a Cobra servomotor and a speed reducer.

Some hours work, (cleaning, building and adjusting)

Then, I asked my local Norwegian Pfaff dealer for the prices on Original Pfaff attachments and gotten totally blown away

Here are the prices they quoted me:

Binder for leather = 288, 71 $

Feed dog = 365, 65 $

Needle plate = 850 $

Attachment for fixing the binder

(With rollers and guide for tape) = 404, 2 $

Total will be = 1638, 56 USD

And I still need the binding foot set; I did not want to ask for the price, it was already way over my budget.

My friend the Leather Guru told me to do the work by hand, but the must be an alternative to the original parts.

This is a very common type of cylinder bed machine; I have seen many Chinese machines with the same arm. There must be a more reasonable priced option out there.

Maybe some of our machine dealers have something for sale.

The price for the Pfaff parts together with what I already spend will be 2160 $, for that price, I can buy a new Chinese binding cylinder bed machine.

Anybody who has any experience with leather binding on a

Cylinder bed machine or binding work in general.

In advance Thanks

Trox

[CowboyBob]

Trox,

Those prices don't shock me at all with Pfaff,I called them today & asked what this machine was made for & they

said for purses,shoes,pocketbooks & upholstery.The L is for leather & N is the 4.5mm stitch length.

But not real heavy leather,maybe they have the feed dogs that way so they don't mark the bottom side.

Bob

[Trox]

Thanks for your answer Bob,

(345-H3-C6-LN )

You are right about almost all, but “N” stands for stitch length 6 mm not 4,5 mm. When the machine has only 4,5 mm stitch length it is marked with “4,5”.

“C” stands for type C (not described any further)

“L” for leather

“6” stands for type of needle size a style of point.

(What kind of needle, the part list does not tell).

I found the partlist and the subclass part list on the web, but I still need the service manual.

The machine comes from a closed down portfolio factory, they was making leather bags and such.

I have gone over the machine, it is very good. No need for any new parts so far. The hook looks like new and every things seems tight.

This is a medium duty machine, I have three big Adler’s for the heavy jobs. (A 5-27,a 204-64 and a 105-25) I am planning to trade them in and buy a Juki 441 or Adler 205-370 ( or a clone). The old machines do the job, but the triple feed is the best system.

It is hard to get a clone like your Cowboy here in Norway, they only sell the Juki and Adler’s.

I have been looking for a used medium size triple feed cylinder bed

For a long time, I was lucky to find this. However, I cannot afford to break anything on it because of these spare parts prices.

However, I believe there are aftermarket parts out there for this brand to? I know it is hooks and feet’s for sale, other parts I do not know of. Do you have anything for this machine?

Trox

Trox,

Those prices don't shock me at all with Pfaff,I called them today & asked what this machine was made for & they

said for purses,shoes,pocketbooks & upholstery.The L is for leather & N is the 4.5mm stitch length.

But not real heavy leather,maybe they have the feed dogs that way so they don't mark the bottom side.

Bob

[sewingtec]

Dear Trox,

which feed dog you have ask?

the binder is very expensive normaly it cost maybe 90 € !!!

can you told me which diameter the binder have?

maybe i can help you!

can you told me the part numbers?

regards

sewingtec

[CowboyBob]

Thanks for your answer Bob,

(345-H3-C6-LN )

You are right about almost all, but “N” stands for stitch length 6 mm not 4,5 mm. When the machine has only 4,5 mm stitch length it is marked with “4,5”.

“C” stands for type C (not described any further)

“L” for leather

“6” stands for type of needle size a style of point.

(What kind of needle, the part list does not tell).

I found the partlist and the subclass part list on the web, but I still need the service manual.

The machine comes from a closed down portfolio factory, they was making leather bags and such.

I have gone over the machine, it is very good. No need for any new parts so far. The hook looks like new and every things seems tight.

This is a medium duty machine, I have three big Adler’s for the heavy jobs. (A 5-27,a 204-64 and a 105-25) I am planning to trade them in and buy a Juki 441 or Adler 205-370 ( or a clone). The old machines do the job, but the triple feed is the best system.

It is hard to get a clone like your Cowboy here in Norway, they only sell the Juki and Adler’s.

I have been looking for a used medium size triple feed cylinder bed

For a long time, I was lucky to find this. However, I cannot afford to break anything on it because of these spare parts prices.

However, I believe there are aftermarket parts out there for this brand to? I know it is hooks and feet’s for sale, other parts I do not know of. Do you have anything for this machine?

Trox

All we have are the feet & hook,needlbar,press bar.We had one a few years ago that we bought a feed dog & plate for $350.00 for them.

Bob

[Trox]

Hi Sewingtec,

Thanks a lot. The parts I need are for a synchronized binder, the feed dog and needle plate for the subclass H3-17/01. Dog: # 91-045 539-4 and the plate # 91-040 701|-4. A binder foot set, a binder swing bracket and a binder for leather. I have received some tips about a company in Hong Kong and some thing on EBay that I am currently checking out. I attach the Pfaff 345 subclass partlist

(Are you Thomas from sew24.blogspot.com and Dürkopp Adler?)

Thanks

Trox

Dear Trox,

which feed dog you have ask?

the binder is very expensive normaly it cost maybe 90 € !!!

can you told me which diameter the binder have?

maybe i can help you!

can you told me the part numbers?

regards

sewingtec

kgi582aa.pdf

[sewingtec]

Hi Trox,

no i'm not thomas. I'm a colleague.

but from Dürlopp Adler!

you can look for binders on www.sew24.com there are many binders (like 91-040 533-23) with pictures!

which binderinstrument and which feed you have choos?

regards

sewingtec

[Trox]

Hi Sewingtec,

Thanks, I need a binder for leather. I cannot find any feed dog or needle plate for my 345-H3 in your site. I have not chosen any yet; I am trying to find the support bracket, needle plate and feed dog. All the parts I need for a synchronized binding, if I cannot find those part I will make a needle plate and a feed dog from standard ones. The only part that is easy to find is the binder it self.

Thanks,

Trox

Hi Trox,

no i'm not thomas. I'm a colleague.

but from Dürlopp Adler!

you can look for binders on www.sew24.com there are many binders (like 91-040 533-23) with pictures!

which binderinstrument and which feed you have choos?

regards

sewingtec

[sewingtec]

Hi Trox,

for choseing a binder you must sure which material you sewing and which diameters you need.

you can use the standard but you need a special walking (like 91-049 269-93/006) and presser foot (like 91-040 432-04/005)

but you must know what you will sewing and which materials befor you chose a foot or something else.

the binderinstrument can be 91-045 543-90 but you don't find this in the shop this is to special.

the binderinstrument from pfaff will cost 210 €

if you have any questions you can ask me!

best regards

sewingtec

[Leather Guru]

Hi Trox ! I think i Still have all that stuff from my old 345 . I'll have a look today and let you know .

Ralph