KAYAK45 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 I have searched all the above and cannot discern and answer to which system to use. One problem I don't understand is say.. Barry King difference between PUSH BEADER and EDGE BEADER and when they would be better than a BEADER BLADE on my swivel knife. Any input appreciated as I have a need for the LOOK and think I need a new tool! (OH NO NOT THAT). Which one, two or all three? Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted February 11, 2012 I have searched all the above and cannot discern and answer to which system to use. One problem I don't understand is say.. Barry King difference between PUSH BEADER and EDGE BEADER and when they would be better than a BEADER BLADE on my swivel knife. Any input appreciated as I have a need for the LOOK and think I need a new tool! (OH NO NOT THAT). Which one, two or all three? Kevin Kevin, An edge beader has one side longer than the other to ride down the edge of the leather and keep the inside line parallel to the border. Basically they are a creaser that rounds. A push beader has both legs the same height to make a beadline freehand, like you'd do framing some stamping or carving away from an edge. They both have way more control in my hand than beading blades for long or sweeping lines., For tight curves then a beading blade is easier. Some push and edge beaders are pretty sharp and some are dull. Here's how I do them. I don't like a beader that is really sharp. I run a light line with the push beader or creaser on cased leather. I take a swivel knife and cut that line to an appropriate depth. Then I go back and round up the bead with the push beader or edge creaser. In my hands a sharp beader is more apt to keep cutting deeper when I go over the line to rub it up. They also tend to cut a new line and you say bad words. The duller ones stay in the track better for me. Guys that are handier than me can take a sharp one and cut and round all in one pass. They can probably ride unicycles too and I am still trying to master an exercize bike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAYAK45 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Great answer, I had hoped you'd jump in. So.. I need all three tools, again OH NO NOT NEW TOOLS! I really appreciate the idea on sharp tools. Already have done the !@)(* on going off line. I also like the idea of one tool to start and then add another for the finish. Buy the way, love your stopping picture. Are you going to make hock boots in addition to regular skid boots? LOL. Might influence the Judges! I was one of the founding members in Ohio for the NRHA, way back when. Kevin Edited February 11, 2012 by KAYAK45 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted February 11, 2012 Kevin, Yep a guy or gal always can use more tools. I use the 2/3/4 sizes of push beaders, but have the range for edge creasers from regular creasers up through layer creasers. The layer creasers are a 1-5 larger sized set of creasers that begin where the regular creaser sizes end. Thanks for the compliments on my ride. He's pretty nice but probably won't see many show pens. That was my first ride last year on him in a new hackamore I got from Jack Armstrong. He is a stopper. I found out I needed to get some skid boots on him just to play around. We need to talk some time. I grew up in Indiana and the Congress was a big deal for me every year. Saw some of the legendary horses and trainers now when they were just another duck in the puddle. Same way with the cutters too. I worked a bit for a guy who was hauling Docs Starlight.when I was in college. Doc Olena, Dry Doc, Little Peppy were showing, I was pretty blessed to see that era. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sylvia Report post Posted February 12, 2012 Yep a guy always can use more tools. That goes for us gals too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted February 12, 2012 That goes for us gals too. Duly noted and the previous post has been edited and corrected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sylvia Report post Posted February 12, 2012 Duly noted and the previous post has been edited and corrected. LOL! Why thank you kind sir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites