Boyof61 Report post Posted March 21, 2012 Wondering if anyone knows of a source for or someone that sells "buffleather"? I'm trying to find some for a couple of ACW re-enacting projects thatI'm working on. I know that it is hard to find, but I know that it is out theretoo. There are sutlers and other ACW leatherworkers that make and sale productsmade with true buff leather, but they won't or tend not to give out any sourcesfor their leather. So does anybody know of a source? Thanks for any help or suggestions, Andy Miller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sylvia Report post Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) Uhmm... what is buff leather? ah ha! It's defined as ": a strong supple oil-tanned leather produced chiefly from cattle hides." So perhaps you can ask some suppliers for "oil-tanned" leather samples and see what you get? Edited March 21, 2012 by Sylvia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boyof61 Report post Posted March 22, 2012 Uhmm... what is buff leather? ah ha! It's defined as ": a strong supple oil-tanned leather produced chiefly from cattle hides." So perhaps you can ask some suppliers for "oil-tanned" leather samples and see what you get? Here is a definition and the process of making Buff Leather: Buff Leather Buff this leather original name was "losh" or "lash. I have seen it spelled both ways. Buff-leather for belts and Military purposes was not buffalo. This mistake is found in many different books even ones printed during the period. This leather was tanned from cow hides. These hide may have been ones with bacterial damage or skin defects since the grain surface would be removed during the tanning process. The leather was subjected to a long lime and then sanded with a pumice stone or split by machine after they were invented. The oldest way is the sanding process, and was called buffing by tanners. From reading records we know that buff leather could only be tanned during the spring and fall. This is due to the liming process that requires mild weather. This was a difficult and time consuming tanning process. After the Mexican war when the amount buff ordered fell off dramatically and when the army wanted more in the later 1850's tanner were not interested. This is the reason that the army switched to waxed leather in 1858. In a letter from G. Bomford Bt Col. of April 17, 1828 states that: As this kind of leather (buff) is unsalable, except for the public service. This shows that tanner were not willing to stock buff leather due to lack of sales to any other individuals beyond the Ordnance Dept. Buff leather according to the Ordnance Dept. should be of a firm consistency, and should not be Spongy. Buff leather is found in three forms. "Natural or buff": this is when no whiteners have been added to change the color from the color given by the oils during the tanning process. That was the thought about natural buff but I found that it was stained in order to give its distinctive yellow. This was done in order to give a more pleasant color to the leather. This may be the reason that it was said that it was impossible to get buff all in the same color. "Whitened buff": buff leather with whiteners added in order to give a much lighter color. This color was not originally a pure white but tended to be in the range of a yellowish white or what we would call an antique white. Originally "whitened buff" was whitened with "Paris Whitening" this was a white chalk. "Blackened Buff": This buff leather dyed black. This leather was also stained in order to give it a yellow color as can be seen on the back. I did see on buff belt that was a blackened buff belt to begin with but the blackening was removed and plates changed in order to make it look like an earlier belt but the yellow color gave it away as being later belt modified. Anyone have any ideas for a source? Thanks, Andy Miller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brewerkel Report post Posted March 31, 2012 Clayton's in England is about the only source for true buff. Their distribution chain of whatever volume they produce in an annual or semi-annual run goes something like this: First pick of the batch : British Ministry of Defense for military uniform and parade equipment Second pick of the leavings: British Heritage departments around the country, for obvious reasons Third pick at the leavings: a couple of British leather wholesalers Fourth pick: overseas agents for Clayton - one of whom is in the Boston area That particular distributor has been unable to get good quality buff for a couple of years, according to a couple re-enactment vendors that supply North American equivalents to British Heritage. My shop in Toronto has been unable to get anything ordered from him since making contact in April of 2011. I think that he simply hasn't got anything worthy of the $20+ @sq foot he needs to get for it. But then, I have yet to receive the products I ordered so I can't comment on the quality of the buff he has on hand - only the comments of numerous people that have handled it. Sorry, that is probably not what you wanted to hear. . Anyone have any ideas for a source? Thanks, Andy Miller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites