soaring eagle Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Great web site!!! Can anyone put me on source of a good Lee Van Cleff style holster and belt... I have fooled around with my own patterns and having trouble getting the angle for the cross draw acceptable..Appreciate any help,,thanks!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IngleGunLeather Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Great web site!!! Can anyone put me on source of a good Lee Van Cleff style holster and belt... I have fooled around with my own patterns and having trouble getting the angle for the cross draw acceptable..Appreciate any help,,thanks!!! What exactly are you looking for when you say "source"? Are you looking for a template or just a manufacturer of a replica? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 16, 2012 What exactly are you looking for when you say "source"? Are you looking for a template or just a manufacturer of a replica? Looking for a template or pattern,,have found a lot of patterns and a lot of replicas(at premium price) but would like to attempt to make one for my own use....Found no pattern specifically for mr. Cleef style holster,,,will be for a ruger blackhawk 357/38 SA 3 screw,,4 5/8 barrel... i am unsure of how to get the sharp angle,,putting over belt or attach a separate hanger to back of holster..i have made only a few holsters and certainly a beginner but enjoy giving it a go...thanks for reply,,maybe i put in wrong forum as i see there is a pattern forum... I guess a good cross draw pattern whether it says van cleef style or not would suffice..Thanks for reply!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IngleGunLeather Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Looking for a template or pattern,,have found a lot of patterns and a lot of replicas(at premium price) but would like to attempt to make one for my own use....Found no pattern specifically for mr. Cleef style holster,,,will be for a ruger blackhawk 357/38 SA 3 screw,,4 5/8 barrel... i am unsure of how to get the sharp angle,,putting over belt or attach a separate hanger to back of holster..i have made only a few holsters and certainly a beginner but enjoy giving it a go...thanks for reply,,maybe i put in wrong forum as i see there is a pattern forum... I guess a good cross draw pattern whether it says van cleef style or not would suffice..Thanks for reply!! Ok. Have you checked out the "How to Make Holsters by Al Stohlman"? On page 3 it gives examples of various folds. I downloaded mine online from Tandy. Additionally, Slick Bald Customs sells a cross draw pattern/instructions for SAA up to 5-1/2" Bbl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Ok. Have you checked out the "How to Make Holsters by Al Stohlman"? On page 3 it gives examples of various folds. I downloaded mine online from Tandy. Additionally, Slick Bald Customs sells a cross draw pattern/instructions for SAA up to 5-1/2" Bbl. Thanks amigo,, i am sure it will help!!!!! Ok. Have you checked out the "How to Make Holsters by Al Stohlman"? On page 3 it gives examples of various folds. I downloaded mine online from Tandy. Additionally, Slick Bald Customs sells a cross draw pattern/instructions for SAA up to 5-1/2" Bbl. Thanks amigo,, i am sure it will help!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) When i make a cross draw holster for a customer. I make the holster pattern with some left to fold over and then i tape a bigger piece to that part and fold it at a pretty extreme angle to get the angle where they want it. Sometimes i have had to tape another piece to the piece i started with to get the angle right. It's just trial and error. Edited September 16, 2012 by dirtclod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SooperJake Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Which movie are you referencing for a "Lee Van Cleef style"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 17, 2012 it would be good bad ugly,,try and post a pix with this,,,ha my computer skills are like leather,,need more practice,,that said i have some will ghormly patterns to work with,,i think i use those till i get better but if the pix get here and someone knows of specific pattern i would like to know if possible,,regards and thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renegadelizard Report post Posted September 18, 2012 it would be good bad ugly,,try and post a pix with this,,,ha my computer skills are like leather,,need more practice,,that said i have some will ghormly patterns to work with,,i think i use those till i get better but if the pix get here and someone knows of specific pattern i would like to know if possible,,regards and thanks It looks to me like a regular vertical opening on the back of the holster...just a flap folded over and pushed through a loop on the skirt...ala single loop holster...the belt looks like it is cut to accomodate the cant...look close at the far right picture at the back of the holster and you will see the belt stitch line angle downward...pretty cool design... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 18, 2012 It looks to me like a regular vertical opening on the back of the holster...just a flap folded over and pushed through a loop on the skirt...ala single loop holster...the belt looks like it is cut to accomodate the cant...look close at the far right picture at the back of the holster and you will see the belt stitch line angle downward...pretty cool design... i'll be dipped and clipped,,,never once thought about the belt being used to adjust holster,,,for sure need practice before trying that,,maybe be up to it by new years,,,thanks a lot for sharp eye and all tips from rest.... i agree it is a cool design!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 18, 2012 After more searching than i can remember in a while i found a site that is called Spaghetti Western Replicas and they make the 1 and only i am looking for and sure enough the belt is cut,,to help with the angle i don't know,but i sure can't afford ha ha. It is from a guy of some fame i guess several years back before all this cowboy shoot stuff blossumed,,Andy Anderson...Anyways just thought i would toss that out and i have something to look forward to trying in the future..Gotta go do something to help the other half before she bows her smoke stack....sea ya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring eagle Report post Posted September 19, 2012 downloaded a copy of al s. and am sure it will help me a bunch,,the fold pixs save me a lot of bad cuts....Thanks for help!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) it would be good bad ugly,,try and post a pix with this,,,ha my computer skills are like leather,,need more practice,,that said i have some will ghormly patterns to work with,,i think i use those till i get better but if the pix get here and someone knows of specific pattern i would like to know if possible,,regards and thanks Not to take this off track but thats an 1860 Colt army Cap and Ball revolver. with 44 ca bullets on the belt. I know that several thousand were converted to 44's but you can still see the nipples on the cylinder on this one. Funny that hollywood makes mistakes like this. Note: the above assumes I am not crazy. There are those that say I am. It sure looks like the cap and ball version to me. I also dont know how to make the picture follow the quote. Edited September 20, 2012 by mlapaglia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St8LineGunsmith Report post Posted October 3, 2012 I think Lee Van Cleef used a Remington 1858 cap and ball revolver in that movie. I have some patterns for that style, if you PM me your E mail address I will send you the file. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St8LineGunsmith Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Not to take this off track but thats an 1860 Colt army Cap and Ball revolver. with 44 ca bullets on the belt. I know that several thousand were converted to 44's but you can still see the nipples on the cylinder on this one. Funny that hollywood makes mistakes like this. Nope that is a Remington 1858 not sure if it was .36cal Navy or .44Cal Army model the only diffrence between the Army and Navy models were the bore diameter. Neither the 1852 Colt Navy or 1860 Colt Army model had a closed frame Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
