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My holsters draw just fine. I'm don't make holsters that rely on a belt for retention - that's the holster's job. If you have to cinch the belt down that tightly, I suggest getting some pants that fit.

i dont rely on it, its a by product of it...when the belt is on, the holster collapses putting pressure on the gun..most of the folks i make holsters for wear IWB, and we have all been on the job long enough to know that when you wear IWB, you buy your pants 2 inches larger than your usual size...

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Two layers of leather (grain out looks best, IMO) should be plenty, unless you're putting a lot of pressure on it. Take a look at Katsass' holsters - those are usually two layers of 5oz leather, grain out. And two layers of leather, properly bonded, formed, and set can be pretty stiff. On IWBs with the mouth band, the band is the second layer. I think that the design is an effort to reduce the overall thickness of the hoslter by reducing the second layer to only the mouth of the holster.

Just a thought or two from the grump: As T.O. says, two layers will form up very firmly, and good retention will result from proper molding in that case. Two layers of 4/5oz works well on most firearms carried concealed, without excess bulk, in my experience. As to carrying concealed, two things to remember, first is that you dress to conceal. That is, to dress appropriately for the time of year and for the locale in which you are placing yourself - - AND in a way that conceals a firearm well, but remember that you give up some availability and speed over an exposed holster. Secondly, printing is a concern, however, not quite as much as many think. It's the fact that a very large percentage of folks carrying a concealed weapon KNOW that they are, are constantly aware of the fact - - and their OWN actions give them away. It takes a bit more than a modicum of experience to be able to wander around and not show (by your own demeanor) that you know that you are carrying a gun on your hip. Remember that one of those poor, misunderstood, downtrodden individuals that have had the misfortune to have spent any time at all in an institution of confinement, has learned the fine art of observation. That's about all they can do (without reprimand) in any penal institution - - and they get damned good at it.. Mike

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Katsass i did get the 2ply from you for my second holster a mexican loop and as you say it is very strong . thank you for that. Stan

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