Members Shorts Posted August 26, 2008 Members Report Posted August 26, 2008 Since this is the place to find out things, I would like a little advice about the Eco -Flo. I am making some scarf slide buttons that will have an interweave of a complimenting color. I have natural lace and will dye the lace prior to making the button. Should I seal the base knot before putting in the interweave or can I do both at once by dipping the button in a finish? Also, is Tan-Kote a good finish for this or would you recommend something else? These are going to be sold with silk scarves and we don't want the color to run onto the scarf. Joe Honestly, I think I'd dye the individual colors of the weave before putting the knot together and then I'd finish with one last coat or two of sprayed top coat to completely seal. Then again, I err on the side of overkill. Quote
Members whinewine Posted August 26, 2008 Members Report Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Also, is Tan-Kote a good finish for this or would you recommend something else?These are going to be sold with silk scarves and we don't want the color to run onto the scarf. Joe Joe, Tan kote isn't waterproof or even particularly water resistant. It'll spot, at the very least, & possibly allow the water-based ecoflo dyes to run. I don't like it for that reason, although many people here absolutely love it & use it exclusively... With the old spirit dyes, spotting would be the worst one could expect if the item got wet, but with the new ecoflo stuff, you've got to be careful & seal it well [& yes, I very much like the new eco flo dyes, but I do take extra precautions with any item that could get wet (from rain or perspiration)]. Just my observation & my $.02 worth. russ Edited August 26, 2008 by whinewine Quote
Members Justis Cases Posted August 29, 2008 Members Report Posted August 29, 2008 I cant speak on what everyone uses for their items, but I can speak on your first question....Fiebings is not being banned.... Solvent based oil dyes are being banned. I don't think it will happen any time soon as it's still available on Fiebing's site. Show me one saddle maker using water based dyes and I will show you a saddle maker that won't be selling too many saddles. You might get by using water based dyes on micro projects, but thats about all its good for in my opinion. Below info copied from Fiebing's site. Professional Oil Dye A new, improved version of our traditional leather dye. Professional Oil Dye is also an alcohol-based dye created specifically for natural strap leather, vegetable tanned leather and bag & case leather. Excellent coverage and superior colorfastness. Manufactured in Black, Dark Brown, Light Brown, Saddle Tan, Mahogany, Red, Royal Blue, Yellow, Green, Walnut and Chocolate. Packaged in 4 ounce, 32 ounce, Gallon, 5 Gallon pails and 55 Gallon drums. Quote Jack, JUSTIS CASES
Members DarkDreamsLeather Posted September 26, 2008 Members Report Posted September 26, 2008 I prefer Fiebings, I can order it as I have a resale id and use it in manufacturing on my products. I live in Calif. In regards to Tandy's Ecoflo dyes I hate them with a passion, they are a waste of money in my opinion as I have to use 3 times the amt of dye to get the same color and penetration that I get from the spirit dyes. If fiebings dye is too dark I dilute with spirit and the dye last even longer (for that depth of color The only advantage to the eco flo is the lack of spirit smell. I order directly from Fiebings, I just wish Tandy would sell the dye in their stores to those of us with the proper requirements to be able to buy them. Just my experience. Quote Not Reponsible for any injury my creations may cause....
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