Best Motor For Adler 867?

[Trox]

Hi Yanni, The DA 321 control box are made for Dürkopp Adler machines and do not have any parameters for other machines (part from some other machines that are made for the DA company)

If you going to use this control box for a DA machine its just plug and play, if your machine is for example a Juki you must re program the hole box. I received the DA control by a mistake and had to call Efka to re program it. Efka did it by Skype video phone (when it was mounted on my Juki 441 clone). They helped me until my machine sewed as I wanted it to do, It is a free service "of course".

The AB 321 control will fit all other lock stitch brands, and have all parameters pre installed. Sieck.de sells these motors for a lower price, (I am not sure if it still is lower than that) but do not offer any support. Thats no problem because Efka company gives free live time support on all their motors systems. That is part of the package you get buying an Efka motor.

Make sure you get the right control box for your machine, it will save you allot of time. Greg @ Keystone sell these motors for 895$

http://www.mcssl.com/store/keysew/parts/industrial-sewing-machine-motors

This is not the latest model anymore http://www.efka.net/index_en.htm My advice is to contact Mr. Manfred Kretz @ Efka ( M dot Kretz att Efka dot net ) (Replace the att and dot`s with @ and . and take away the spaces between, I write it like this to avoid spam). He will help you find the best motor solution for your machine and tell you where to buy it too.

Say hello from me, he is a very nice and helpful person (thats his full time job too ).

Good luck

Tor

[Yanni]

Thanks Tor,

The reason I've asked is because I already bought two AB321 motors from SIECK for only 570 euros where they charge me nearly two hundred euros more for the same motor here in the UK. I've found programming the AB321 was dead easy after following the instructions here:

I've also called Manfred and helped me with slowing it down.

If the DA321 and AB321 are identical that's great but was wondering if the motor provided by sieck is lower torque than on the DA321 package although I haven't seen any problems with our machines.

You've said:

I paid about 800 dollars (the Norwegian krone; NOK is very high against the dollars) for my Efka DC 1550 (with DA (AB) 321 control and position head) motor included tax and shipping from Germany

What is the German dealer you bought your motor from, I am trying to find a dealer that sells same price as SIECK as I can't get hold of Andreas at sieck for some reason, they do not answer their emails or phone!.

Thanks

[Trox]

Hi, I bought from Andreas in Sieck too, but thats more than two years ago now. I cant help you get hold of Andreas, he is a very busy man. I think he runs that company alone, he is hard to get hold of.

What is the problem?

I never said the AB 321 and the DA was identical, far from it. Then you must read the post above one more time. The DA 321 is a Dürkopp Adler control box and the AB..... is for all other lock stitch machines. Part from that they perform the same way and are for the same motor: DC 1550.

The motors Sieck sells are the same as every other Efka motors. Two years ago there where only two types; the DC 1500 (400W and 3Nm, for the small machines) and the one I have the DC 1550 (600 W and 8 Nm, for the big machines). The AB321 control do not work for other than the DC1550 motor (Perhaps its possible to reprogram it, but Sieck don't know how to do that. They only sell them, thats it)

Recently Efka has listed two new motors for flange mounting; one small DC 1200 (550 W-3,4 Nm) and the DC 1250 (750 W - 8,2 Nm). These are smaller in size (but even stronger than before), made for flange mounting and direct drive. I have no idea what motor you have in your system, is it not a DC 1550? I am sure the smaller motor is cheaper than the big ones. You got to consider that before comparing the price.

If you buy from Sieck its cheaper, but there are no small talks within the deal. You get what you pay for; in their own good pace.

What kind of machine you use it on? If you need more torque there is a way to turn them up even more. I have no need for that on my 16 and 1/2 inch 441 clone; I only use about half of its power.

Tor

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

I was told from Efka America that the DC-1250 is not ready yet, and that I was advised to stick with what I was used to, the DC-1550 with AB321 controller.

BTW...if you really want to see the differences for yourself between DA and AB per say, the best thing to do is download the available owners and parameter lists and cross reference them. Like said, don't think you'll be at all limited with either or on a general lock stitch or chain stitch setup, but don't quote me or hold me to it.