Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted August 21, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted August 21, 2008 Where do I get this machine you speak of!!!!! I want one!! its called children.... Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
Members JRedding Posted August 21, 2008 Members Report Posted August 21, 2008 perhaps start with a figure that pays what you feel is fair to you. Say $8-9.00/hr? then add in the cost of the material and add on after that. I charge more for really good calf and kangaroo lace than cheap lace, etc.just a thought. pete who can work for 8.00 or 9.00 dollars an hour ? McDonalds is paying $10.00 an hour to kids who can't tie their own shoes or complete a single thought here where we live. Quote
Ambassador pete Posted August 21, 2008 Ambassador Report Posted August 21, 2008 ok- I'll see your $10.00 and raise it to $20.00. I was simply giving an example to work from. By the way- my son works at McDonalds for a summer job.They started him at $7.25/hr. Quote
Members whinewine Posted August 21, 2008 Members Report Posted August 21, 2008 Okay,Just made the POW bracelet for a customer, who knew the price I was charging before hand. When I showed him the bracelet he gave me the "we are veterans on fixed incomes line". He wanted to know if I could make them cheaper and dangled the fact that he has lots of buddies, like the proverbial carrot. Below is the reply I sent to him. I would like your opinions on this. Am I wrong? "To be perfectly honest Dane, These bracelets are not really cost efficient for me to do. I spend roughly eights hours making one, and put about $12 worth of supplies into it. If I charge $55 for it I"m getting a little more than $5 per hour labor. They're not really worth the time spent. My husband thinks I should just take them off my web space, and I'm inclined to agree with him. I'm sorry if the price is too high, I can't make them for less. They take time from other projects. I admire anyone who serves in the armed forces, we are all indebted to them. I think my prices are fair. I don't make one until it's ordered, that way I can make it to fit your wrist, totally custom. Let me know if you're interested, and if so, your wrist size." Shirley Unfortunately, a lot of people have "entitlement" issues... pushy people from NY & NJ, old farts, 'vet-runs' (as how it's often pronounced), people on welfare, the 'professional poor', & young people who have been told all their lives that they're 'SPECIAL'... [& yes, I am (a) a veteran, ( an old fart, © & certainly can often be pushy, (d) & I'm certainly not wealthy (e) & I have low tolerance for stupidity & intolerance {... an intolerance intolerant???}]. However, when someone tries to dicker me down, I tell them this isn't Mexico, where haggling is expected, & if they persist with the sob story, I tell them that I left my sad-sounding violin back at the opera, thank you very much, goodbye & have a nice day. And I simply turn away from them & go back to what I was originally doing. Quote
Members JRedding Posted August 21, 2008 Members Report Posted August 21, 2008 Sorry Pete, I thought you were being serious. And I'm not incinuating the lousy help they have in our town represents all their employees. Just an example Quote
Mike Craw Posted August 21, 2008 Report Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Shirley, I just looked at your site again. I guess I only looked at (and drooled over) the seats, but for some reason I never saw the bracelets. They are beautiful, and I can't imagine that you could even do them for that price, let alone be cheerful and respectful in your response to a request to do them for less. I think your answer was just fine. Maybe he'd like a nice rubber 'Live Strong' bracelet... OH, I'm an old fart, veteran, retired... Mike ...and I can't spell! Edited August 21, 2008 by Mike Craw Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Members Kevin Posted August 21, 2008 Members Report Posted August 21, 2008 I sometimes like to point out that I am not a homeless,12year old in India, who is considered untouchable because he works with dead animal skins. It is going to cost a little more for me to make something. After all I have a 21 year old truck and a $57,000 house to pay for. Please forgive my extravagant lifestyle. Kevin Quote
Ambassador pete Posted August 22, 2008 Ambassador Report Posted August 22, 2008 JREDDING_ No need to apologize. My son is really smart and cool and knows that he will have to do what he has to to afford the gas to get to school(and the insurance that we now made him responsible for paying) as to the ones with whom he works...... they DON'T know how to tie their shoes or complete a sentence!! I don't eat fast food for that reason alone!!!! They CAN pick their nose, pass wind AND wrap a double cheese burger simultaneously though. pete Quote
Froghunter Posted August 22, 2008 Report Posted August 22, 2008 Shirley, I agree with everyone.....Don't compromise! Your customer wouldn't want a compromise on quality of workmanship, why should we are artisans compromise on our earning a living. I too believe that if one person won't buy it at the asking price, one will. If not, then I CHOOSE to give it away, donate it, or just hang it on the shelf....But I CHOOSE! just my $.02 Quote ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pounding on dead animal flesh, who woulda Thunk it!
Members BradB Posted August 22, 2008 Members Report Posted August 22, 2008 JREDDING_ No need to apologize. My son is really smart and cool and knows that he will have to do what he has to to afford the gas to get to school(and the insurance that we now made him responsible for paying)as to the ones with whom he works...... they DON'T know how to tie their shoes or complete a sentence!! I don't eat fast food for that reason alone!!!! They CAN pick their nose, pass wind AND wrap a double cheese burger simultaneously though. pete I think I just gave up fast food as well.... Quote
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