Clicker Press

[talon]

I'm in need of a clicker press, unfortunately the 20 ton shop press method won't work for me. I need a swing arm clicker (or a traveling clicker). I've been seeing this presses from Ebay and am wondering if any of you have experience with them. Unfortunately the Shop I'm in now doesn't have 3 phase power, so that would be an added expense for a 3 phase converter (I suppose I could go VFD as well)

Here is a link to the listings I've been looking at, realistically I'll go with the smallest machine that will meet my needs, but the traveling head clicker would be the easiest to use (Its wide enough that I could fashion a roller to allow me to handle an entire side)

10 ton

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hydraulic-Swing-Arm-Clicker-Press-10-Ton-NEW-1yr-warranty-/111034794444?pt=BI_Textile_Equipment&hash=item19da3081cc

25 ton

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hydraulic-Swing-Arm-Clicker-Press-25-Ton-BRAND-NEW-1yr-Warranty-/111024163753?pt=BI_Textile_Equipment&hash=item19d98e4ba9

Traveling Head (25 ton)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beam-Clicker-Press-25-Ton-BRAND-NEW-1yr-warranty-/111024181653?pt=BI_Textile_Equipment&hash=item19d98e9195

I'm also wondering if you guys have any advice on the tonnage I will need. I am looking to cut 10 oz veg tan, pieces approx 8"x 8" with multiple 1/4" holes in the die.

Thanks!

[Art]

Steve at Leather Machine Company has a 10-Ton clicker that works great. I have one. Steve is a full brick and mortar shop and has excellent product and customer service. The clicker from Steve came completely set up bolted to a steel pallet with a protective crate around it. I left the pallet attached and the machine is easier to move around with a pallet jack when necessary. It was a wire it up and throw the switch affair. The clicker also has a converter so that you can use it on single phase, which I do and it works perfectly. Plenty of power for the 12oz plus that I do. Large complex busy clicker die patterns might require more power, but it has done everything I have asked without even a grunt.

Art