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800 is the exact number I had in mind, but I would save up for something better. 3/8" is not enough for the kind of work you want to do. I don't sew 3/4 but I often find I am choking my cobra 4. You go to turn a corner, and the foot dings something that is 3/4 inches or higher. That is a typical holster issue, but I can see it with bags also. I bought a lot of second hand machines for various purposes. The good thing about Adler is you will get your money out in most cases if you don't overpay etc... The bad thing is dealing with old tech, possible problems, and getting yourself a machine that doesn't really do what you want. When I bought the Cobra, I figured I would loose a grand if I turned around and sold it right away. But I am getting my work out with zero problems. All I did was worry about whether the machine would do what I wanted when I had the techsew GB6 180. Great machine, just wasn't right for my work. I'm not pro, but the work I am doing is saleable, and I will get the 1K back pretty quick.

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Thanks Massive;

I think I will take your advice and save for something more appropriate.

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My Adler 5-27 (the forerunner of the class 105) sews 15 mm of material with a 328 needle system. It has bottom feed and a spring loaded jump-foot like the Adler 105-8. I used this machine for many years, it was never a problem with it and it have a beautiful stitch. My rebuilt 105-25 MO (who now is a regular 105-25) has a foot lift of 19 mm (with a smooth feeding foot) and will sew about the same (as the cl.5-27) with out problem.

The Kochs Adler company did not brag about numbers on what a machine managed once (like I do, and several with me do). They was always on the safe side and built machine that could do more than needed. I do not want to stand idle and look at a fine piece of machinery die, most of the Europeans who have these machine will not part with them. Ask my US/ Belgium friend the "leatherguru", he has a impressive machine park but still love his Adler 105.

The reason there are many MO types of machines out there for sale, is because they was used in shoe factories and they are now outdated. Or nobody produce shoes in the western world anymore. The only thing you will be able to break on these machines are the shuttle, you can get them aftermarket.

Seriously, I would pay more for a Adler 105 than a Chinese bottom feed. This machine climbs good too, its a double feed. When mine is ready I will upload a video of it sewing, thats worth more than thousand words. (its not going to happen to morrow, this is a between other duties project)

Thanks

Tor

Tor

Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100

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I just got off the phone with the guy selling the Adler and he had a fire in which most of his belongings burned including the sewing machine. There goes another one. Sad all around.

Thanks for all your input. In spite of the outcome this process was great, I really learned a great deal.

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I just got off the phone with the guy selling the Adler and he had a fire in which most of his belongings burned including the sewing machine. There goes another one. Sad all around.

Thanks for all your input. In spite of the outcome this process was great, I really learned a great deal.

Thanks, to bad. The Adler's I have will not burn before 3600 degree Celsius. I hope you find something else.

Tor

Tor

Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100

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Thanks, to bad. The Adler's I have will not burn before 3600 degree Celsius. I hope you find something else.

Tor

Maybe this Adler burned at Fahrenheit 451, the temperature at which insurance claim paper ignites. Montag!

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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I suppose the question has now been answered. What is this machine worth? NOTHING

Darren Brosowski

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