walter roth Report post Posted August 18, 2013 Swiss Army Leather Tools. Oh yes, because of the tools of the Swiss Army. They had a "Saddler Chest" with spare parts, belts, thread and tools in it, but there were few tools. Were interesting actually only the Half-Moon Knive. Which were of Swiss knife makers, the famous knife maker from Bern, "Backaus" and the famous pocket knife manufacturer "Wenger Delemont" ........ with the famous ancient officer swiss army knife. I have a rules here, in which he is depicted content of the Chest. Let's see whether it is possible the photography. greeting Walter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Hi Bruce. Thank you for the compliment. Hello Leather Craftsmen Here is a very small rest to fine machine with a hand crank. The manufacturer is unknown to me, but it is a pretty part. This not only drives the lower roll the leather, but also the smooth upper roller is driven. The device (left of the machine) to adjust ease of thick leather I have made myself, which is not original. I have only seen in 30 years as a part, no photo, no catalog Noting, ........... In Germany there are still some engineering works he has previously made such things, but these companies do not own meh they once produced there. I hope they geällt you ..... ((-: greeting Walter Hi Bruce. And we do you like the machine at the end of the series of pictures here ..... (((((((-: greeting Walter Hi Walter, beutiful machine, I have never seen the like of it before. Did you make the adjustment holes as well, or only the top thickness scale? Very nice machine and looks like it is in perfect condition. The last one is Bruces favorit yes. Thanks for showing. Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Hello leather craftsmen Here is a Machine is often referred to as one of Blanchard. She is not, she comes from a German manufacturer, whose address I do not know. 30 years ago I said a include representatives of the Blanchard, that they left the earlier making in Germany. These machines were sold in Switzerland in the years from about 1918 to 1942 and cost about 1924, 280 Swiss francs. Well, my dad got in 1933 only 80 francs a month salary. So, the machines cost a lot ................... This model is the very rare large model, it has a Mechanism with which you can also cleave angle. How to write this in english .......?? Wedge-shaped split off ....? The mechanism is not practical, the machine ..... but the best thing there is. I use everyday in the smaller model without the mechanism. greeting Walter Hi Walter, Here is another great piece, this looks like it is a bit bigger, how wide is it. It must have taken your father more than two years to pay for this machine, you better not sell it then. The wedge edge split of a strap is called a "lap skive", and a wedge shape to the left or the right of a work piece is simply called a skive. The also refer to paring the leather as a skive. This is a great looking machine, it looks like inside of a swiss watch. I have never seen the like of this one before either. Thank you for showing, I love to see machines like that. keep it up Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Walter, More great tools! I really enjoy seeing them and the variations from anything made here. You did another awesome job finishing off that Randall splitter as well. Enjoy it! - Bruce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Hello leather craftsmen Thank you for the praise, I need .... soon a new shirt for my biceps ..... (((-: Bruce: ..... many thanks, have a lot of joy to the splitter. Tor............. Well my English ..... -slang- ....)) -: My father was a farmer. I am the first saddler. We were in my family since 1872, always cavalrymen in the Army until 1972 when it was abolished. Because I grew up with with horses, I was Sattler. I will adjust evening more photos today, I still have one or the other splitting machine .... ((-: A big from Switzerland and a little of Meyer and Flammery in Paris. Slowly, slowly. greeting Walter ps: Tor, the little black machine is only 30 cm tall, the brown 38 cm in width. You see it in my hand. The black hole at the Scala was not labeled with numbers, so I made this labeled. By the time you know your machine and knows exactly where it splits as thick. Edited August 20, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Hello leather craftsmen .............. Here is a splitting machine from Swiss production. The company, there is still, but the machine you can not get even sure 35 years. It was produced by the company Urben & Co. .... http://www.urdo.ch/index.html. This machine is the only Moell I know with which one can be very good wedge shape. This is the Rieme eingführt simply with the two rolls and split it, then turned back out again until it falls to the crank by itself, and the next belt can be introduced. Very einfch to use. Massive machine ÜR long operation. One can thus normally split, but it is not really practical to use, set the de thickness is too cumbersome. Consider here as a lot of fun. Ps: The company "Simon & Co. Biel" was only a distributor of these "Praktikus" sold Walter Edited August 20, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Hello leather craftsmen ....... Do you have something geehen ever .....?? You Findt it in Blanchard catalog. Yes, ......................it is a belt-tensioner for saddle makers, so that the tension the English saddle trees. Were stretched with 6 cm wide hemp belts the saddle tree. The part is around 100 years old, if not more. Very rare to see. Since I have learned the saddle making and have made about 50 of them, I knew immediately what it is for and bought it immediately. I just got 10 of them newly produced, but the more modern, better model. The saddle trees of today are not the same as 100 years ago. Ah yes, the last picture of a small insight into my reserves greeting Walter Edited August 20, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macca Report post Posted August 20, 2013 wow, that a fine collection ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe9 Report post Posted August 20, 2013 I dont know anything about this and have no connection to the person selling it . I thought it looked like a nice collectors piece if anyone was interested and that is why I posted it here . It is a military saddlers box I would guess WWI ? http://baltimore.craigslist.org/atq/4007880011.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Hi Wolfe9 Yes, it is an old piece and guts certainly a piece for a collection. But such things also need space in my room and is really just now ..... ((-: But nice to see. Too bad that the content in the long time lost. Perfect, the list of content is still available. Greeting Walter Edited August 20, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Hello leather craftsman ...... Here I have some pictures of a belt-hole machine. The operation is so good to see. This is not an invention of Weaver .... ((-: but were n of Switzerland hergstellt long. Here by the company "Urdo" - "Urben and Co." The machines were widespread, worked very well and are easy to handlings. The Quality of this machine is top notch. The hole punch can be well replaced. So here are the pictures. Looks a bit different as the Weaver ..... ((((((-: greeting Walter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simontuntelder Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Walter, that is a beautiful machine. Would it be possible to find such a machine in Schwitzerland (used or new) and how much would such a machine cost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 21, 2013 Hello simontuntelder So, the perforators are now no longer so easy to find, usually they have those they also often use in their work. For old saddlers you find nothing, because they are all dead now also here in Switzerland. But there is still a safe somewhere, who used the machine a little and they would sell it, ...... just takes a little to ask. Costs ....? I think it would be so cost around 1000-1500 francs. Switzerland is generally an expensive country, but ............. it also deserves the workers a good wage. I would not exactly up to you to make it work properly, but ... they are usually in very good condition. The Lochpfeiffen this because if you can still get what is missing. I know of someone else who has a new man hole machine, ie ......)) that was never used. (( I once asked him what he wants for it ..... let's see what he replies. greeting Walter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Hello leather craftsmen Here is something for a change. That was my grandfather in 1911. He was a cavalry officer in the army. Greeting Walter Edited August 21, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Hello simontuntelder So here's something about Saddler Chest of the Swiss Army. Of course it had earlier also in the saddlery with horse-drawn artillery, or cavalry. Who were better equipped, unfortunately I have found to no regulations. But here purely to subject some impressions. Such cases will be no more, they were dismantled by the army during decommission into individual parts and sold the contents of the crates for some part, only a few years ago. The things come from my colleagues who learned the profession with me, he was in his army saddlery. On the Reglment is in the upper left corner ....... "satellite Zwicker," So saddlery ud the name .... Zwicker. I went to the cyclists, I was in the booth of our present Komagnie Council for defense, Federal Councillor Ueli Maurer. greeting Walter Edited August 21, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted August 23, 2013 Hello Walter, beautiful pictures, thank you for posting. Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macca Report post Posted August 23, 2013 This thread gives me a severe case of the WANTIES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Macca. No, ....... that's probably quite a misinterpretation. Macca, I assume you meant this word .... (VANITIES) in German „Eitelkeiten". The pictures show where my relationship with the Saddlery and leather craft comes. We always had horses in the family and I have therefore also such images. And I think it's interesting sometimes to see something that has to do directly with not only the "a" theme. I learned my profession in many long years, and I hope that the things that I show here are one or the other of use. Who likes his profession, which would also share with other such. I do not envy sought here in this blog, anyway. OK ............... greeting Walter Edited August 23, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macca Report post Posted August 23, 2013 Hi Walter Don't worry, no thoughts of vanity at all ! That's not what I meant I'm a tool junkie and seeing these wonderfully engineered, rare tools makes me want them ! :-) So please don't think anything bad, we are lucky that you take the time to share these amazing tools and history with us it is a real treat Thank you ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 23, 2013 Macca ....... Well, I also apologize to you. So Sorry. My english ....)) -: I should probably learn but once properly. I have probably too much "vanity" focused on my word. Well, in certain things I am probably. I never see these images here in Switzerland, to my colleagues here do not tolerate well. That's why I enjoy posting here much because in Switzerland is not possible. The few here are jealous and have always been afraid of the other competitors. Well, then I will gladly go ahead and show you how the life of a saddler in Switzerland looks. And I hope here in the blog yet to find very many suggestions. Leather braiding, so the things I like very much and always there is something which is almost done here. greeting Walter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 27, 2013 Hello leather craftsmen ......... Here I have one very similar to what a splitter also knows of Osborne ago. But the French model untercheidet have some other details. The means for detecting the leather thickness is not provided with those forceps as at Osborne, but by a lever, the ...... here with a wooden handle is But usually you can see a rope on the site of the wooden handle which is pulled through a hole in the bench and at the end we fixed something like a stirrup, and then served with the foot, or pressed down. In addition, there is a device with which you could split the leather to the side edge angle. Here on the machine is still the mark of Meyer and Flammery to see the competitor by Blanchard, with whom he fought out a legal riding in the 20ies years. It was about the use of the greyhound as a trademark. Mayer lost the dispute to court. So much time entertainment. greeting Walter Roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted August 28, 2013 Beautiful paring machine Walter! The maker had some good ideas on the design also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 28, 2013 Hi there. May be bruce, yes thank you, thought ds s intressat. The colors were so remaining in the original, I have only a little retouched. So here's a picture of my other grandfather. He was a farmer. A real Toggenburg, it's almost like a part of the "Appenzell", the costume is almost the same as in the Appentzellern. The pants were way out of yellow goatskin, but when the image entand you had the colors by hand painting the picture with the yellow was the color but not good. For a change from the many splitter. 2 Splitter I have, but I'll show you later. Next, I show you how manenglische "loops box" produces. Maybe it here anyway gibtn one or the other is interested in harnesses. I which you previously used the mene Shlaufen as 100 years ago on the fine English coach harness. Also on the buggy harness saw it. But first the image. greeting Walter Roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted August 29, 2013 Hi Walter, A very nice splitting machine. I have been searching for splitting machines for years; all I have seen was Osborn and Dixon machines. Now you are pulling out of your hat the strangest looking machines, one by one. All your machines are new to me; I have never seen any of them before… Amazing. And do you still have more? Keep up posting. Moreover, they all look 100% perfect. When you talk about loop box, is that something that you use to make box loops for harnesses? I would love to see that, thank you. Your grandparents look good, their clothes looks just like Old Norwegian traditional clothes too (Part from the lederhosen, they used hand gesponnen kniehosen). Thanks for posting Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter roth Report post Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Hello Tor ............. Thank you ............ yes I still have 1-2 more splinters, but I put a later time in the forum. Well, the old saddler of which I have these small, which would surely delight if he could praise all of you hear .... ((-: But now the box loops. Yes, those are the one which used to en English harnesses. Unfortunately I did not have digital photos of my own work, but I put a link on which you can see with my work loops. http://www.moench-ge.../gala-geschirre The "Albrecht Moench" is a relatively good harness saddlery. I supply it for about 23 years with the loops. So now here how such images creates a loop and a few examples of the 25 stamping plates that I have. The press I myself have done, because I wanted to have a small press time, one that I could put on the bench. I press with 8-15 tons of pressure, depending on the size of the loop. So, now it looks to you but to myself. Oh yeah another thing. There are some loops make the box, but so far the only one which produces binch-sit the old fathers. Most are very soft and have little standing, the embossing plates are very thin and do not tolerate large pressure. Then it is extremely important that the dies have a radius, it may not be straight. Just squeezed a drop loops in use, that is, they bulge inside which looks very ugly. The leather is naturally minted wet, and the degree of moisture is probably the thing in this work is the really big problem. It takes a lot of experience to the leather just right, but not to make them wet. The loops remain to get used to in the form of one day in the supplied bolt-on Tools. Greeting Walter Edited August 29, 2013 by walter roth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites