Members SeattleLeather Posted September 20, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 20, 2013 Wolfe9, will keep it in the tally as a rough number! I think between the posts here and some PMs might be at about 10% Come on high rollers, where you guys all at??? Haha! ByAmericansllc: Huh, that's interesting about Custom Metal Crafters. Which guy did you talk to? I believe I talked to Tim Balog, and he was the one who said those are being imported now. Ben I think is the other guy who responded to my initial email and also said those are imported now, but I talked to Tim on the phone. Aside from them telling me, one of the reasons I assumed that to be correct is that you see that 999 part number carried over to some companies that resell those same buckles, and one or two of them said they were made overseas too. I would assume there's not multiple companies using the same part number for sucha similar item. If they're still made in the states that's nothing but a good thing! They ought to make sure all their sales reps know this fact though if that's the case. I reckon that would make them the lowest minimum order for US roller buckles that I've found then if that's the case! Perhaps I'll have to re-check with Tim if I can't get this SS thing going. Electrathon: I agree across the board. Perhaps I chose a bad "representative" picture, as you are probably correct with that 2nd one being cast. I know some shaping/contouring ("coining" seems to be industry terminology) can be done to wire as I've seen this talked about on other manufacturers sites, but I did not discuss this with them. I would assume the quote above is for something more like the 1st one. I do agree that some of the subtle differences in number 2 would be nice, but if doable I'm sure they would add to cost. If we can get up to the minimum I was already thinking of checking to see even before posting this thread! As for some minor markup, yes perhaps. And to answer your question on the Custom Metal buckles, they are steel with nickel plate. If I remember my conversation correctly they can do solid brass wire as well. And finally, if you prefer the stainless mainly for the same reason I do (no plate to wear off) http://albest.com/product.asp?Func=DispProd&SelCat=Buckles&SelSubCat=End+Bar+Buckles could be of interest. If I were going for dressy or casual belts as my first stuff vs Rock gear I would definitely be checking into their solid Nickel Silver products! The rollers go too perfectly though with all the rock 'n' roll styled stuff! And as another note, is it within this forums ettiquette to make a thread in a more "main" forum linking to this one to bring attention to it? Some message boards I've posted on over the years had this happen all the time, and it was fine. I'm sure this isn't one of the most heavily trafficed sections, so bringing more attention to it from more popular sections would be cool! If this is ok, which would you guys that have been around here longer suggest? Also, if anyone feels like messaging friends they feel may be interested, please do! I would really like to see this happen, and the more people that know, the more will be interested, and the more likely it is to actually happen! Quote
Members ByAmericansllc Posted September 20, 2013 Members Report Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) I call their main number and select sales, always seem to get the same girl, she seems knowledgeable and has gone through most of the catalog with me in the past, confirming country of origin, my geneal feel from talking to her is that most cmc branded zinc cast and bent wire are USA and all solid brass and Waterbury style are imports, that has not been confirmed, just every item I enquirer about followed those norms. Also when I called their distributor numbers they were clueless. Their manufacturing facility is in ct, and when you can the main number you are at least talking to someone who has the ability to literally walk down to the production line and ask, their warehouses in Seattle and Cali are just distribution points. Also the 3 digit numerical designation appears to be used on all the bent wire hardware they sell, z des on their zinc Edited September 20, 2013 by ByAmericansllc Quote
Members ByAmericansllc Posted September 20, 2013 Members Report Posted September 20, 2013 Also regarding the solid brass, from my research you would have a hard time finding USA cast brass fron a large manufacturer now due to EPA regs. Small/hobby/custom producers can get by but large facilities face to many regulations to cast brass here. Which is why most manufactorers that are still us based use plated zinc. Quote
Members Sovran81 Posted September 24, 2013 Members Report Posted September 24, 2013 If this were for small locking tongue roller buckles I would be in for some. Locking tongue are hard to find in anything under 1" at reasonable prices. 5/8 and 3/4 would be ideal. Quote
Members Leather by LOU Posted September 25, 2013 Members Report Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) I would be in for 100 pieces as a test... but would be interested in many more if I liked them. Is there a way to get samples? Edited September 25, 2013 by Leather by LOU Quote Anthony Loughan Portland, OR Consew 206rb-5 Artisan NP-4 Skiver Singer 19-23 treadle www.portlandcustomleather.com
Members SeattleLeather Posted October 3, 2013 Author Members Report Posted October 3, 2013 ByAmericansllc Sorry, I was sick for about a week, and then had catch up to play at my "real" job! Well, that would all make sense with what I've found from other companies. Zinc and steel wire seem to be commonly done here. Also correct on the brass casting. It can crackle/pop causing injuries, so the big companies don't want to touch it. As far as SOLID brass, not cast, you can find things made from wire/stamped from various companies still. Sovran81 There are many parts that would be awesome to have done, for me this is just kind of the first thing I personally would like to get as you can't find SS made in the USA. So is there anyone else out there interested? I think by this count we MAY be about 10 percent there... Also is it appropriate to post in other more main forums on here to draw attention to this in case others who don't look at this section frequently are interested? Quote
Members nairecastle Posted October 19, 2013 Members Report Posted October 19, 2013 I am new to the forum as well as new to leather crafting. I am in Canada but would also be interested. Quote
Members Resparza Posted April 22, 2014 Members Report Posted April 22, 2014 What happened to this thread? Quote
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