Turks Head - A Miracle May Have Occurred (But Interweaves?)

[Tracym]

OK, I think I'm doing ok with turks heads. I can figure out the (gaucho) on a "square" knot, i.e. 7l 6b. Watching a herringbone (pineapple) interweave video makes sense on the more "square" knots. But I haven't figured out how to adjust the pattern for a longer knot. I have a 4-bight turks head knot, I think 7 parts, that I want to add a herringbone interweave to. It is working best for me to make this knot in place, so I'm not using pins, and I'm really not having trouble with it slipping. Can anyone point me to a video, or guide, or something as to how to do this interweave?

[TXAG]

Do you have any of Gail Hought's books?

[Tracym]

No, on my Christmas list. I'm trying to get one of these done soonish, in the next day or two, if possible.

[TXAG]

Can you send me your email address via PM please?

[Tracym]

Done

[Tracym]

I can't seem to find a video of this kind of knot. For some reason, I can't get into the knotheads worldwide site (technical problem), I was going to look there. Anyone have any insight into how a long knot is worked differently for the interweave?

[KnotHead]

For which knot?

Brian..

[Tracym]

I currently was trying to use a 4 bight 7 part turks head. The first thing I'd like to do is a herringbone interweave in a second color. For a second knot, I'd like around the same size, barber pole. I'm braiding beveled 1/8 kangaroo - these knots are to cover the back braid. I'm cutting 1/8 lace in half and using that for the knots, if that info helps.

[Tracym]

Got a couple of the Bud Brewer tutorials - hopefully that should do it - thanks!!!

[skyout]

Hi Tracy,

When deciding on the base knot's geometry,you must also take into account the Type of PK you intend to tie. If Type 1, where the interweaves are entirely held within the bight boundary of

base knot, the Interweaves will have 2 FEWER parts than the base knot so you need to ensure that the interweave can be tied. To test, ensure that the number of Parts and Bights have a greatest

common denominator (GCD) of ONE. If the GCD is greater than ONE, then you either need to tie a Type 2 Pineapple Knot OR change the base knot geometry.

If you're tying a TYPE 1 Pineapple Knot, your 7p x 4b base TH knot will have a 5p x 4b TH interweave for a total of 12p x 8b Type 1 PK which won't work because you can divide by 2 and/or 4 (GCD higher than 1).

Another one that won't work is if the outside turk's head knot is an 11x6 turk's head the inside turk's head will be a 9x6 turk's head....which can't be tyed!

Here are some great tutorials:

http://pineappleknotstutorials.over-blog.org/articles-blog.html

Hope this helps.

Edited December 3, 2013 by skyout