neelsaddlery Report post Posted December 6, 2013 Hello All: I see there has been some talk on the forum about the new CB-3200 Leather Stitcher that we are offering. This machine is an excellent alternative to more expensive machines offered in the market today. The machine is the lowest priced heavy duty compound feed harness stitcher offered on the market. The operational mechanism of the machine is exactly the same as the Juki 441 machine and also all of the other 441 clones on the market. That is to say that this machine is a triple feed machine, which means that it has a needle feed, walking foot, and a feed dog. This machine uses a lot of the same parts as our Cowboy Model CB-4500 series machine (a clone of the Juki 441). This machine uses the same bobbin, shuttle hook, needle bar, needle, rock feed, presser feet, presser foot bar, as well as may other parts. This is an added advantage to the consumer in that parts on this machine will readily interchange with a lot of the other clones on the market. This machine can use any presser feet that are available on the aftermarket for any of the 441 clones as well. We stock a full array of presser feet for this model as well as our 441 machines, and also virtually any array of accessories that you may need such flip out roller guides, drop down roller guides, and different needle plates like holster, stirrup, and flat slotted needle plates. We also offer a full selection of spare parts as well. The compound feed mechanism on this machine insures perfectly even stitches over a wide variety of materials. The machine has the ability to climb over multiple layers of material and also is an excellent performer in heavy leathers. The machine will sew up to 1/2" thick with a 5/8" presser foot lift. The machine has a full 10.5 inches of sewable space to the right of the needle. This machine will work very well for all types of leathers, as well as nylon, biothane, and heavy canvas. It is an ideal machine for sewing light and heavy horse tack, saddles, knife sheaths and gun holsters, pet products, as well as ballistic nylon webbing, and nylon webbing used in the construction of horse accessories and pet products. It can also work well for sewing tow straps, parachute harness, and all manner of safety harnesses. The machine features a fully operational reverse mechanism that allows you to match the forward stitch with the reverse stitch perfectly, hole for hole. It also features all of the same operational and adjustment features as the 441, such as full thread tension adjustment, bobbin tension adjustment, presser foot tension adjustment, presser foot height adjustment, as well as a hand lifter and a foot lifter for the presser foot. This machine is an excellent choice for the leatherworker that is on a budget and in need of a machine that has all of the same abilities as the Cowboy Model CB-4500 but at a much lower price. The introductory price of this machine complete with stand with adjustable locking caster wheels, high quality plywood top with rubber edges, special variable speed dc servo motor, machine head, speed reducer, thread stand, bobbin winder, sewing light, thread, needles, an assortment of tools, and extra bobbins is $1595.00 complete!!!! The price point on this machine makes it a full $800.00 cheaper than any 441 clone on the market. Yet, the machine is able to perform all of the same operations as the 441. So far we have received an overwhelming response to these machines and those that have purchased have been very pleased with the performance of the machine and also the price point. Bob Kovar at Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines is a fully stocked dealer of these machines and he has close to 50 units in stock and ready for immediate delivery, with many more on order. Our factory is working at full capacity to produce these machines and we anticipate selling a tremendous amount of them in 2014. We are also stocking this machine at the Cowboy distribution warehouse in North Lima, Ohio. If anyone should have any additional questions on the machine, please feel free to contact Bob or myself. Please see our contact information below: Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines 1-866-362-7397 www.tolindsewmach.com Ryan Neel Cowboy Distribution Center (330) 692-1418 www.cowboysew.com We hope that you will discover the "Cowboy Advantage" today!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HCRider Report post Posted January 15, 2014 Hi.....what is the difference between the motors of this and the 4500? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msdeluca Report post Posted April 30, 2014 Hi.....what is the difference between the motors of this and the 4500? Thanks. I purchased the CB3200 recently from Ryan and the motor is the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jess Jones Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Hi Msdeluca! I am on the verge of purchasing the 3200 on Monday. Do you recommend it overall? I manufacture 1/4" leather gun belts and from what I see, it should do the job no problem. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msdeluca Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Hi Msdeluca! I am on the verge of purchasing the 3200 on Monday. Do you recommend it overall? I manufacture 1/4" leather gun belts and from what I see, it should do the job no problem. Thanks! Hey Francesco, I'm very happy with my 3200. I don't need the 3/4" capability and it goes through 1/4" leather like butter. I'm pleasantly surprised that it does a great job at sewing 1/8" leather with 138 thread as well. Note that you can upgrade to the 4500 table, what I did, but you won't be able to sit without modifying the foot pedal set up. I did a write-up on this in another thread. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Hey Francesco, I'm very happy with my 3200. I don't need the 3/4" capability and it goes through 1/4" leather like butter. I'm pleasantly surprised that it does a great job at sewing 1/8" leather with 138 thread as well. Note that you can upgrade to the 4500 table, what I did, but you won't be able to sit without modifying the foot pedal set up. I did a write-up on this in another thread. Mike You do know that you can move the sewing machine table and down don't you ? You can move your chair height up and down to. I have a stand really close to yours and i have sewed comfortabley with for 20 years by moving the stool height up and down or the machine height up and down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jess Jones Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Hi Msdeluca! Thanks for getting back to me. I've talked to Ryan Neel from Neel's Saddlery and he has been great. I'm just going to go ahead and get the 3200. Sooo excited! Now I just have to learn how to use the machine. Im a total beginner with sewing machines and have little to no experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msdeluca Report post Posted June 1, 2014 You do know that you can move the sewing machine table and down don't you ? You can move your chair height up and down to. I have a stand really close to yours and i have sewed comfortabley with for 20 years by moving the stool height up and down or the machine height up and down. Yes, I know. I've got a desk, a drafting board, a table, and the sewing machine that I roll my chair between. They all have to work with the same chair adjustment, so the solution for me was to modify the sewing machine table and pedal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msdeluca Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Hi Msdeluca! Thanks for getting back to me. I've talked to Ryan Neel from Neel's Saddlery and he has been great. I'm just going to go ahead and get the 3200. Sooo excited! Now I just have to learn how to use the machine. Im a total beginner with sewing machines and have little to no experience. Ryan is just great. He'll walk you through setting up and sewing on the machine. I've got quite a bit of experience with residential sewing machines and was grateful for the in depth explanation Ryan gave; there are some differences. Don't worry, you'll be up and running in no time. The machine was expertly set up and sewed perfectly right from the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Yes, I know. I've got a desk, a drafting board, a table, and the sewing machine that I roll my chair between. They all have to work with the same chair adjustment, so the solution for me was to modify the sewing machine table and pedal. I understand then why you did what you did now. But reading your post makes it sound like theirs something wrong with the stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites