Members TXAG Posted December 12, 2013 Members Report Posted December 12, 2013 Ok, so I've been trying to follow this tutorial for over a week now... http://pineappleknotstutorials.over-blog.org/article-grant-s-heel-knot-one-strand-90275515.html ...but I'm not getting it. I get all the way through until the third pass (step 13) and then get lost. They said to parallel the original "working end" (maybe they mean "standing end"? I've tried going to the immediate right of the original working end and also tried the immediate right of the second pass -- neither works) of the 7x6 knot. When I do that, I end up with railroad tracks that never get split. Are there any better tutorials for this that are easier to follow??? I understand pineapple interweaves pretty well now, but am not getting the third pass of the heel knot here... As always, thanks for any useful info... Quote
Members curlyjo Posted December 12, 2013 Members Report Posted December 12, 2013 The easiest way to figure those buttons is to use a different colored string with each pass, meaning dark for u1/o1 then light for building u2/o2, then dark again for the u3/o3 pattern. Or use dark all the way through the u2/o2 pass and then switch to light. Once you get started, the proper pattern to split will show up real easy. That's how I pattern my Interweave on my Heelknots. I just increase the o1/u1 sequence until I can fill in with the same color to complete the o2/u2 work. Then I flip it over and use a different color to finish the o3/u3 work. That puts a nice set of stripes and the # depends on how much you built up the original button. I hope this helps, Brad PS by flipping it over I mean going to the opposite side so you don't end up with 4 ends to bury at the same point. Quote
Members TXAG Posted December 12, 2013 Author Members Report Posted December 12, 2013 See, I tried that and it didn't help. Maybe I should try the three-color tutorial, here... http://pineappleknotstutorials.over-blog.org/article-grant-s-heel-knot-in-3-colors-90272068.html I tried using different colors on each pass using the first link I posted earlier today, but it didn't help at all... Also, when you flip it over, how do you know where to begin that pass? Quote
Members megabit Posted December 12, 2013 Members Report Posted December 12, 2013 Try changing colors for each new interweave. Doing the additional interweaves always kinda throws me for a loop too. You can see the advice I got when I had the same trouble here: http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28897&hl=rawhide#entry181711 Quote
Members curlyjo Posted December 13, 2013 Members Report Posted December 13, 2013 The picture in the Grant book shows where to go on the start of the 3rd step, 2 up from the standing end. I just turn the knot 180 degrees and find that spot on the other side. Brad Quote
Members TXAG Posted December 13, 2013 Author Members Report Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah...I just finished reading the part on the heel knot in his book just now...I usually cannot follow his drawings, but for some reason they made sense to me on this one more than the pics in the tutorials...especially where he talks about additional passes. I'll read the link megabit posted too... Quote
Members KnotHead Posted December 13, 2013 Members Report Posted December 13, 2013 this is the one I followed. http://youtu.be/SGAukWEMqC4 Quote Best Regards, Brian Kidd
Members TXAG Posted December 13, 2013 Author Members Report Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Alright. I just tried that tutorial I posted in the first post in this thread using a dark color, a light color, and a different dark color -- and it is still completely jacked up. Would some kind soul that actually knows what they're doing (because I apparently do not) please run through that tutorial and let me know if the tutorial is full of crap or if I am? It would be very helpful if someone could confirm if the tutorial is correct. I also could see the pattern emerge after I completed the second pass...I thought about just trying to continue that pattern just by sight, but I haven't tried that yet. I have to go to the range this weekend, so I will probably have many hours to try to get this right. (I usually qualify in the first firing order and then wait at the range for another eight hours for everyone else to try a few times...what fun...) Thank you, KnotHead...I will go watch that now... Edited December 13, 2013 by TXAG Quote
Members TXAG Posted December 13, 2013 Author Members Report Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) So...........the heel knot in Grant's book is the exact same as the three pass pineapple knot then?? I didn't know that... Edited December 13, 2013 by TXAG Quote
Members TXAG Posted December 14, 2013 Author Members Report Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Anyone have any other advise? It is still not working -- I am able to do the first two passes fine with no problems and it looks great. Then all sorts of unholy hell breaks loose on the third pass. Edited December 14, 2013 by TXAG Quote
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