oclack Report post Posted December 18, 2013 You can just call me a gluten for punishment… I’m still trying to figure out the 441 machine I purchased a couple of week ago and I already looking at grabbing anther machine. The 441 was purchased with the intent of doing satchels, belts and thicker cases. For smaller items - wallets, passport covers, journal and note pad covers - given what I read here I think a different machine would be best. I have some ideas for a few canvas and leather items I’d like to try out. Would the 31-15 machine be ideal? I’m thinking thread weight would be 138 or smaller? Leather thickness probably not over 4-5 oz. I’ve come across a Singer 31-15 recently services, with table and new digital servo motor for $750. Is this a reasonable price? Do I need a speed reducer, or will the servo motor be sufficient? What do you think - money well spent? or keep looking? - Odin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) That's WAY to much for a 31/15 !! Keep looking if you want one. I sew thin stuff 5 ounce with 138 or 69 thread on on my Ferdco it's 441 machine. Edited December 18, 2013 by dirtclod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pcox Report post Posted December 19, 2013 I have been getting $400 to $450 for 31-15 on a table with motor, bobbin winder, and thread stand. Serviced and ready to sew 20 oz. of leather. Delivering my last on tomorrow. I see some on Craigs list for $200-300 don't know condition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted December 19, 2013 My 1921 31-15 will not pass #138 thread around the shuttle and bobbin case, no matter what adjustments I make. I consider them garment machines, best limited to #69 thread. Newer models, so to speak, may handle #138, if you are lucky. The springs and take-up parts are not meant for heavy work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites