8thsinner Report post Posted September 28, 2008 Been sitting here for over two hours trying to do a pineapple knot from a 6b7p turks head braided... I used to always do them from the next one down...I am trying to learn the principles here and avoid buying another book for the moment... So far I have went Up on the left side - working clockwise of course...of the standing part.... follow it up o1,u1, o1, u1, o1, u2c see to be honest, I am ashamed that I haven't got muchfurther and I dont want to post what I have done from here cause I feel it's embarrassing, but please someone help me out here.... Is there a simple principle to remember like, always work under the two crossed until you see you can split a pair then it changes to o2, u2's and split pairs the rest of the way or what..... SOMEBODY??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted September 28, 2008 ok first of all on a pineapple knot the interweave passes on the right of the standing part sequence as follows up-u1o1u1o1u2 down o1u1o1u2 up-o1u1o1u3 split parallels down o1u21o1u3split parallales up-o1u1o1u3 down-o2u1o1u3 up-o2u2o1u3 down-o2u2o1u3 up-o2u2o1u3 down-o2u2o2u3 up-o2u2o2u3 down-o2u2o2u3 finished end is now alongside original standing part hope this helps you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted September 28, 2008 hhmmmmm....methinks they speak in code...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted September 28, 2008 I think you should picture what you are doing so all of us can learn. Many of us haven't been doing this for long and would like to learn new knots. I learned how to extend a pineapple knot in another thread. I don't even know that a 6b7p turks head is....?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow Report post Posted September 28, 2008 Is there a simple principle to remember like, always work under the two crossed until you see you can split a pair then it changes to o2, u2's and split pairs the rest of the way or what..... I was struggling with the same problems here not very long time ago. I think i got it now and basicly can make any size of PA now. What i had learned was that doing the interwave always going up follow the line on left and coming down follow the line on right. Also split parallels everywhere you meet them. crow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8thsinner Report post Posted September 28, 2008 Thanks for the help here, I went to bed shortly after posting this but will make a start when I am finished cleaning the house up.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted September 28, 2008 entiendo--the turks head is the foundation for the pineapple knot, it is the interweave that makes it a pine knot. 6b refers to 6 bights 7p is 7 parts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8thsinner Report post Posted September 29, 2008 I think I am doing something wrong here myself so still can't get this thing to sit right.......I am far too out of practice, I could do with a few tutorials myself I think... But heres one I did ages ago now for the cowboy knot, named for the five pointed star pattern left on top.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted September 30, 2008 What does "parts" mean. I know what bites are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted September 30, 2008 Been sitting here for over two hours trying to do a pineapple knot from a 6b7p turks head braided...I used to always do them from the next one down...I am trying to learn the principles here and avoid buying another book for the moment... So far I have went Up on the left side - working clockwise of course...of the standing part.... follow it up o1,u1, o1, u1, o1, u2c see to be honest, I am ashamed that I haven't got muchfurther and I dont want to post what I have done from here cause I feel it's embarrassing, but please someone help me out here.... Is there a simple principle to remember like, always work under the two crossed until you see you can split a pair then it changes to o2, u2's and split pairs the rest of the way or what..... SOMEBODY??? You might want to go to Visit My Website and look at pineapple knots under the interweaves section for a general method for any two string pineapple. Sidney Wood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted October 1, 2008 entiendo...if you look at your foundation knot when its complete and before you add your interweave you will see that for six bights your lace crosses the center of your knot seven times up this is the parts(you only count in one direction). does that make sense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Yes, that makes sense now...thanks roo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essentia Report post Posted January 28, 2009 http://www.whip-basics.de/gallery.php I posteda tutorial over on the whip basics site...hope that helps Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites