rcsaddles Report post Posted February 19, 2014 Would someone plese post the process of making and using vinegaroon? How do you make it, do you diluye it with water before using, how long do you soak the rawhide and anything else I forgot to ask. Appreciate the help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcsaddles Report post Posted February 19, 2014 Questions about "Vinegaroon" Started by waterhouse, Dec 10 2008 07:26 AM Brian, here is another post about this. I didn't know how to post the link to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted February 19, 2014 Thanks Joe. Brian... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sovran81 Report post Posted February 19, 2014 There was a long thread on it but cant seem to find it. so here is a run down. Vinagroon only works on vegtanned leather, it wont work on rawhide. It chemically reacts with the tannins in the leather (or coffee table and floor) and turns it black. Dissolve as much clean steel wool as you can in the vinegar. This may take several days to a week depending on temp. Filter the solution and you have vinagroon. If you want the leather dyed all the way through, dip the leather in the solution. it will start turning black almost immediately. Neutralize the leather by dipping in a solution of baking soda and water. About 1 teaspoon per gallon. Thoroughly rinse the leather in clean water. Air dry. Thats it. Its pretty simple and doesnt dye your hands. The black is a little dull until you finish it then it is a deep black that doesnt rub off and goes all the way through the leather. The darkness is a matter of how much tannin is in the leather. You can increase the tannin level by pretreating the leather with a coffee or tea solution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camano ridge Report post Posted February 19, 2014 If you search ninagroon you will find several therads on it. However to save time go to this link it will give you a bunch of information on vinagroon and other old time dyes. The coffee and walnut dyes can be usede on rawhide. http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,11991.0.html The breif diescription above is a good starting point. The important thing is not to rush you vinagroon let it age every week or so stick a piece of scrap in watch for it to turn color. After you remove it from th roon put a little neatsfoot oil on it you should have a nice black. One thing not mentioned above is once you have rooned your project you need to put it quickly in to a bakingsoda bath then rinse with water to neutralize the vinagroon. (that is all discussed in the link above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Thanks all for the replies. I do appreciate the help. Brian... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sovran81 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 One thing not mentioned above is once you have rooned your project you need to put it quickly in to a bakingsoda bath then rinse with water to neutralize the vinagroon. (that is all discussed in the link above. Actually I did mention it. Although the amounts of baking soda used differ. Somewhere on this site is a very good thread concerning vingroon but my search skills are lacking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camano ridge Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Sovran81, my appologies you did mention it. So much for my speed reading skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcsaddles Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Thanks everyone. I did notice that once I posted the thread and went back into it, at teh bottom were the other threads about vinegaroon. Neat little service the admin has done there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted February 21, 2014 I think I'll stick with the color that I got on this. I kinda like it and it will pop with the natural against it. Take a gander at the dyed lace. Natural The Columbian Coffee as dark as I could get it. (STRONG TOO) LOL... After 24hrs in the container. Brian... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sovran81 Report post Posted February 21, 2014 Thats a nice brown. I also think the contrast will go good together. Looking forward to seeing the completed project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted February 21, 2014 Well I guess 24hrs is not long enough. LOL... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
