Which Machines Need A Sytem 1001 Needle?

[Constabulary]

I just can across a bunch of new SCHMETZ System 1001 needles in size 280 (metric) and wonder which machines could use these monster needles.

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Best guess is they are the leather version of the SMX1000. From what I can gather the 1000 class is equivalent to the Singer 8 needle

[Constabulary]

They have a regular tip.

Total length: 9.1cm

From top to top of eye 8 - 8.1cm

From top to middle of scarf 7.5cm

Some pictures:

Edited May 14, 2014 by Constabulary

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

MY_1001, Also known as system UY_121 and DVX1, in your case size NM280, was used for Union Special bag closers 3000 class, and for very old 9500D Union Special. Not too common needle at all.

[Constabulary]

Are you sure they are the same?

Mine are 9cm long - even longer than the 328 and 794 needles

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Singer 8 Needle? I'm not sure what you are referring to. Also, I can't figure it out, but are you referring to Schmetz needle system 1000H? These are def. not the same, or the needle system would be.

[Constabulary]

I´m referring to your last post #4 of course.

The MY_1001 / UY_121 / DVX1 is a shorter needle which also fits into the Juki MF860 for instance.

As mentioned before my needle is a 9.1cm long 280NM monster needle. So it can´t be the same needle - look at my pictures and the measures.

How does a Singer 8 needle look like and what are their measures?

[CampbellRandall]

• 1000H system
  • measures 73 mm from the top of the eye to the back of the shank, with 2.5 mm dia shank

• for Singer 7B, Seiko SLH, Adler 120-17 or -37....

1001 system

• measures ??? don't know. It's so old it's not in my charts

for all other Adler 120 series

331 system

• measures 82.5 mm from the top of the eye to the back of the shank, with 2.3+ mm dia shank

for Pearson, Landis 1 etc... now obsolete

[Constabulary]

Hi CampbellRandall!

That really helps - thanks a lot.

Shank on my needles are 2.3mm. So it "seems" my needles would probably work for the 331 system. What do you think?

But what exactly is the Singer 8 Needle?

[CampbellRandall]

Singer 7P, 7SS & 8 classes used a curved needle... I would assume he meant the Singer 7B