Which Machines Need A Sytem 1001 Needle?

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Singer 7P, 7SS & 8 classes used a curved needle... I would assume he meant the Singer 7B

No, I mean the original Singer 8 class machine which is bigger than a 7. The modern Chinese equivalent to the 7 class is the GB6 class where the 180 and 181 use the 7 class (794) needle and the GB6-182 uses the 1000 system which I believe is the original Singer 8 class needle. Just to confuse matters they also build the 7-33.

The 7B was the Japanese built version of the original 7 class such as the 7-5.

Singer used the same numbers for different machines with the "-" or letter being the modifier. For example the 99k is a 3/4 sized domestic straight sewer while the 99w is an industrial button holer weighing about 65kg.

The 7 and 8 with the p and ss letters were not designed by Singer but were inherited with a company they purchased.

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Singer 8 Needle? I'm not sure what you are referring to. Also, I can't figure it out, but are you referring to Schmetz needle system 1000H? These are def. not the same, or the needle system would be.

If you look at an old Singer needle book you will see that most early machines had a special needle numbered after them.

Are you sure they are the same?

Mine are 9cm long - even longer than the 328 and 794 needles

Send a PM to Singermania - Steve as he has a Singer 8 class machine and can measure up the needle.

[VanRhodes]

My Adler 20-7 uses the 1001 needle according to the information I have found. But it works okay with the 1000 needles as well.

[Singermania]

HI Darren, yes the Singer 8-8 that I have has the larger of the 7 class shuttles and I'm pretty sure uses the 1000 roundpoint needle.

[inge w]

I have been  looking for needles to my Adler 20-17B.   The only one left is " Schmetz C 000".  Have not yet found anything like that, but that needle has the exact same measures as the Schmetz system 1001.  So if anyone in this forum knows where to get something like that,  it wold be a great help. The machine itself is still as good as new and can work for many more years.    

Edited August 9, 2020 by inge w

[Matty]

Adler H-Type 969 pure/eco/classic takes system 794 (standard) or system 1000H.