What Machine Is This?

[DavidL]

1:44 Whats this brand and the price.

Is there a noticeable difference with machines w/ the fine needle and roller foot (?). How well does an edge guide work and can it be added to a vintage machine like the one in the video.

Edited July 20, 2014 by DavidL

[pcox]

looks like a Singer 136-100 to me.

[Constabulary]

Or a Singer 52W - but could be any post bed sewing machine. Roller foot seems to be a swing away type but I´m not sure. But she has a huge hand wheel installed. Pretty cool shes turning it by hand - one has to tell her about servo motors But I don't see an edge guide.

[Constabulary]

in the beginning you can see her machines - one is a 45K (as it seems) but the other one...

[DavidL]

These roller feet can they be installed on any singer machine or have to be a machine made specifically with that installed. Edge guides can they also be added to any machine?

whats the best machine - singer 136-100, singer 52w, 45k thats for 3-4 layers of 3 ounce or thinner. Has to be hand cranked.

[Wizcrafts]

These roller feet can they be installed on any singer machine or have to be a machine made specifically with that installed. Edge guides can they also be added to any machine?

whats the best machine - singer 136-100, singer 52w, 45k thats for 3-4 layers of 3 ounce or thinner. Has to be hand cranked.

4 layers at 3 ounces = 12 ounces = 3/16 inch. If that is the thickest you are going to sew, and if 8 or 9 oz is the thinnest, almost any roller foot post machine will do, as long as the leather has a soft hand. Dense leather begs for a heavier duty machine than these post machines. A 45k25 is a good medium to heavy duty machine you can hand wheel to sew shoes, but it is rare.

Are you restricting your search to old iron? There are some really good roller foot machines available for sale at reasonable prices, from our member-dealers (see ads on top of all pages here). I know of at least one that has both upper and lower rolling wheels driven and a large, M style bobbin. This would make a great shoe upper sewing machine. The old iron was usually only bottom feed and smallish bobbins. They are also used to sew hats and mocs.

[DavidL]

4 layers at 3 ounces = 12 ounces = 3/16 inch. If that is the thickest you are going to sew, and if 8 or 9 oz is the thinnest, almost any roller foot post machine will do, as long as the leather has a soft hand. Dense leather begs for a heavier duty machine than these post machines. A 45k25 is a good medium to heavy duty machine you can hand wheel to sew shoes, but it is rare.

Are you restricting your search to old iron? There are some really good roller foot machines available for sale at reasonable prices, from our member-dealers (see ads on top of all pages here). I know of at least one that has both upper and lower rolling wheels driven and a large, M style bobbin. This would make a great shoe upper sewing machine. The old iron was usually only bottom feed and smallish bobbins. They are also used to sew hats and mocs.

Im looking specifically for old vintage hand crank. Im new to leather sewing machines, what is the difference between upper and lower wheels, rather than just upper and what is M style bobbin? Looking in the 200-400 range. Does the old machine takes edge guides and bias tape attachments from new stock.

My criteria is from most important to least. First three is mandatory.

• Stitches Max close to half an inch and at least 12 ounces effortlessly of every material veg tan, Chrome, vinyl, heavy canvas.
• Vintage machine. No electricity. Comes with fine needle attachment and roller foot. Easy to use meaning that the machine is known for its quality.
• Not overly expensive. Will upgrade to something better but want something to first learn on and keep as a secondary machine.
• Has a round arm like the tippman boss but is longer. Can also equip a flatbed is extra.
• Things like edge guides, and bias tape attachments are wanted but not necessary.

Edited July 21, 2014 by DavidL

[Wizcrafts]

DavidL; what exactly are you going to sew on your ideal machine?

Old machines are very limited compared to modern ones.

[Wizcrafts]

Are you saying in requirement #1 that you need to stitch 1/2 inch stitch lengths? If so, you are going to need a whole nuther kind of machine. The average post or light duty cylinder arm machine only sews as long as 5 to the inch. My big Cowboy CB4500 sews two to the inch, as does its little brother, the CB3200. Contact Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines, or one of the other advertising dealers on our forum to see what they have that meets your requirements.

[DavidL]

Are you saying in requirement #1 that you need to stitch 1/2 inch stitch lengths? If so, you are going to need a whole nuther kind of machine. The average post or light duty cylinder arm machine only sews as long as 5 to the inch. My big Cowboy CB4500 sews two to the inch, as does its little brother, the CB3200. Contact Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines, or one of the other advertising dealers on our forum to see what they have that meets your requirements.

1/2 inch thickness. Stitching would be 5-9 spi.

Id prefer non electric because I want it to be as close to hand stitching as possible where its all handmade for belts.

Looking to make belts from 3-14 ounces is the average.

Two machines that I'm eyeing are the singer 136- 10X machine (can this stitch through 8-12 ounce leather?) or the singer 29k which is selling for 450.

Anyone know if the singer 136 w10X can be swapped to the rolling foot on any model from modern made stock. How much do these go for I can't find it online.