Colt Hammerless Report post Posted August 22, 2014 I was speaking with Matt Bressler, W&C's sales manager, at the leather trade show in Prescott, AZ this last March, and mentioned to him that I'd eventually like to switch to drum dyed leather for my holsters, belts, and mag pouches. I told him the only color missing in their line up is mahogany, which is a shame because that seems to be a very popular color for holsters (certainly is for me.) He seemed interested in the idea, and said he'd try to get a few samples made to test out. Well I was ordering a piece of skirting from him about a month ago, and he mentioned that they made a few test pieces, so he sent me a sample to try out. Here's some pics of it next to a sample of their dark brown skirting (Havana.) I haven't made anything with it yet, but hope to make a small pancake holster soon to see how it looks when oiled and finished. Matt said they've gone ahead and started a small production run of it, so it should be ready to order now. They're gearing it pretty much toward holster makers, and therefore are offering it no heavier than 8-10 oz. at the moment. Of course, they'll split it to thinner weights. Thought some of you might be interested. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hi Im Joe Report post Posted August 22, 2014 That looks really nice! Pretty cool to have your idea/suggestion come to fruition! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itch Report post Posted August 22, 2014 Matt is a good guy,we buy our holster leather from him as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteelcityK9Cop Report post Posted August 23, 2014 Gotta +1 W&C's Customer Service... I buy my sides there and have been VERY happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin Report post Posted August 23, 2014 Thanks for the heads up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George B Report post Posted August 23, 2014 Had my up and down times with W&C, but since I have been dealing with Matt, I have nothing but good things to say. Havana brown will be available to all as a stocking color and Ordered a side in the Mahogany. Was told 2 to 3 weeks for the order due to the wait on the Mahogany. Hoping its worth it. Have both dyed and used the drum dyed leathers and now 90% of what I do is drum dyed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Im Joe, Yeah it was just a passing comment at first, but he seemed really interested. We started brainstorming ideas for color, and both reached the conclusion that their burgundy bridle leather was the color range to go for. He said they're basically taking the burgundy bridle and leaving it as a skirting leather (without all the waxes and such that would go into a bridle leather) for the mahogany. George B, Matt emailed me just about two weeks ago now, and said the batch would be ready in about two weeks, so I think your order may be shipping soon. It's a dream of mine to have my leather drum dyed. I'll have to ease into it though, as it's quite an investment to have 4 or 5 colors on hand. I'll probably start with Havana, as dark brown has outpaced mahogany for me as of late. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted August 24, 2014 Did they get the 'issues' under control? I like the look of W/C leathers, but I need a holster to firm up in the end! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted August 26, 2014 I haven't had any issues with it firming up. There will be a few spots here and there that are a bit soft and won't firm up (mostly approaching the belly), but the majority of the hide firms up nicely. Certainly haven't had any more soft spots than with Hermann Oak. JLSleather, what type of issues have you had? When you've gotten leather from W&C, did you have them "holster" it for you? I've heard the temper of their non-holstered leather is softer than HO, but I've only ever gotten "holstered" from them. Actually, I think these samples are regular temper as it does seem softer (even though it's 10 oz. and the backs I get from them are 8 oz.) so it'll be interesting to see how it firms up when I wet form the holster I'm making out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted August 26, 2014 Maybe that's the trick.. i didn't ask for that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itch Report post Posted August 26, 2014 We buy their Holstered leather then mold it with a liquid leather firmer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted September 18, 2014 Here's the finished holster. After wet forming, it seemed the color was lighter than before, and frankly, I wasn't thrilled. But, after a coat of neetsfoot oil, it really popped. Even more so after the finish was applied. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usmc0341 Report post Posted September 18, 2014 That looks awesome. What weight did you have it split down to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted September 18, 2014 This is just from the sample piece they sent me. I haven't actually bought any yet. This piece was 10 oz. Normally I get my skirting from them split and holstered to 8 oz. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usmc0341 Report post Posted September 18, 2014 Wow, how did you get such detailed wet molding on 10 oz? Sorry, I don't want to derail the thread but I am curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted September 19, 2014 Very strong hands. Just kidding. I was a little surprised myself. I'm pretty sure this piece is not "holstered" and the temper is a bit softer than what I normally get from them. I actually do get a bit more detail in the holstered 8 oz. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites