Contributing Member BillB Posted October 27, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted October 27, 2008 I am considering buying a Weaver Power Edge Slicker and I am looking for any advice/comments from folks who have had one, used it, price/value, etc. I am looking at the new design that has both the sanding drum as well as the wooden roller. Please no food fights. I prefer to leave the coffee, tea, donuts, and cookies in their appropriate places. BillB. Quote Bill B. Nead
esantoro Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 You might want to send Ivan an email. He raves about his burnisher, and he's now planning on selling them with a small motor. http://cgi.ebay.com/Fantastic-Leather-Edge...id=p3911.c0.m14 Ed Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Bree Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) esantoro said: You might want to send Ivan an email. He raves about his burnisher, and he's now planning on selling them with a small motor.http://cgi.ebay.com/Fantastic-Leather-Edge...id=p3911.c0.m14 Ed You rock Ed!! That is exactly the kind of thing I have been looking for!! I just ordered one. I bought a 6" buffer at Harbor Freight for $50. I really bought it for the motor. I am going to attach this to the buffer arbor and this should make my life MUCH easier!! I need speed. I can't futz around burnishing each belt for half hour. I think this thing will get me a fast clean burnish. And if it doesn't work I will use the mandrel to hold a nice block of turned African Blackwood that will. So I can't lose on this deal! Edit... $85 ($50 + $35) is a heck of a lot better price than $475!! Edited October 28, 2008 by Bree Quote Ride Safe! Bree 2003 Dyna Wide Glide Memberships: Iron Butt Association, Niagara Falls HOG, Wild Fire HOG NRA, Niagara County Sportsman's Association
Members Ivan Posted October 28, 2008 Members Report Posted October 28, 2008 My burnisher will work if you run it at 1750 RPM or less. The duffer you bought will work for sharpening tools or taking off the dye bloom if you buy your cloth wheels from Sears. I packaged your burnisher this am and is will ship today. For sanding the edgis I use the small bench belt sander Harbor Freight sells. Do not wet the edges, use my blended wax and your edges will look FANASTIC!! Quote
stelmackr Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 esantoro said: You might want to send Ivan an email. He raves about his burnisher, and he's now planning on selling them with a small motor.http://cgi.ebay.com/Fantastic-Leather-Edge...id=p3911.c0.m14 Ed Please page 14 of the August 2008 RawHide Gazette for some additional information. I've clipped out that page and here it is: burnisher.pdfFetching info... If you want to see the entire issue then here is a direct link: http://www.pslac.org/public/08_aug08.pdf If you want to see an index to all the public issues, here is a link: http://www.pslac.org/table_index_rawhide.htm Hope this helps. Bob Stelmack burnisher.pdfFetching info... Quote Bob Stelmack Desert Leathercraft LLC Former Editor of the, RawHide Gazette, for the Puget Sound Leather Artisans Co-Op, 25 years of doing it was enough...
Members Ivan Posted October 28, 2008 Members Report Posted October 28, 2008 My last response was the first time I have ever replied to anything on this site. I should have given a better explanation. A buffer turns at 3600 RPM. That speed creates a lot of friction and will burn my burnisher. I'm not sure what it will do to your leather. I also make belts, 50 to 75 at a time. If you follow my instructions you should spend less then 5 minutes burnishing each belt. First edge both sides. If you like a darker edge color it. With my burnisher I started using colored "Sharpies" (it is faster). Then rub on some of the blended wax I sent with the burnisher along the edge. Chrome tanned leather uses more wax on the edge the veggie tanned. To get started faster with my burnisher (with it running) use the shaft of a small screwdriver to start a grove in the wheel. From time to time you need to press the wax into the wheel too. If you use too much way you will get a build up on your belt. It comes off with your thump. Please Email me if you have any questions. Thank You Ivan Quote
Bree Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Thanks Ivan! The buffer does indeed run at 3600 rpm. However, I think that by using lighter pressure I can get the same effect. If I can't, I can run it on my Delta Drill Press which has variable speed between 500 and 3100 rpm. One way another I will get it to work especially if I use some very fine sandpaper (400-600 grit) prior to burnishing to prep the surface for burnishing. Quote Ride Safe! Bree 2003 Dyna Wide Glide Memberships: Iron Butt Association, Niagara Falls HOG, Wild Fire HOG NRA, Niagara County Sportsman's Association
esantoro Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Bree said: You rock Ed!! That is exactly the kind of thing I have been looking for!! I just ordered one. I bought a 6" buffer at Harbor Freight for $50. I really bought it for the motor. I am going to attach this to the buffer arbor and this should make my life MUCH easier!!I need speed. I can't futz around burnishing each belt for half hour. I think this thing will get me a fast clean burnish. And if it doesn't work I will use the mandrel to hold a nice block of turned African Blackwood that will. So I can't lose on this deal! Edit... $85 ($50 + $35) is a heck of a lot better price than $475!!Anything to return the favor for turning me on to Penn State Industries. I've received everything to start turning blanks and making pens, but it will be some time beore I am able to try it all out.Ed Bree said: Thanks Ivan!The buffer does indeed run at 3600 rpm. However, I think that by using lighter pressure I can get the same effect. If I can't, I can run it on my Delta Drill Press which has variable speed between 500 and 3100 rpm. One way another I will get it to work especially if I use some very fine sandpaper (400-600 grit) prior to burnishing to prep the surface for burnishing. I know that there are small desktop grinders that have a variable speed of 0 to 10,000 rpm. I wonder about their quality due to a a $35 to $45 price tag.Bree, is your Delta drill press variable speed without having to change a drive belt? Now that I have my turning supplies and drill press lathe, I can see how useful it would be to have such a drill press. My variable speed requires the changing of the belt.ed Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members Ivan Posted October 28, 2008 Members Report Posted October 28, 2008 Bree, I believe if you use my burnisher in your high speed buffer you will burn it where you touch it, the blended wax will not work as designed, and the burnisher may self destruct. If it does not come apart at 3600 RPM and then you run it at its designed speed the area you burned will not burnish anymore and you will not be happy. Believe me I have put 100's of hour's into this burnisher. If you follow my instructions nothing comes close to working like it does NOTHING. When you run it over 1750 RPM my burnisher will not last long and will not work. In about 2 weeks I will have my own motors, made in the USA, and sell you one for $59.99. I should have photos this weekend on the 2 different set ups. I will Email them to you if you would like. I ask that you reconsider running my burnisher over its design speed. Thank You Ivan Quote
Bree Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 Ivan said: Bree,I believe if you use my burnisher in your high speed buffer you will burn it where you touch it, the blended wax will not work as designed, and the burnisher may self destruct. If it does not come apart at 3600 RPM and then you run it at its designed speed the area you burned will not burnish anymore and you will not be happy. Believe me I have put 100's of hour's into this burnisher. If you follow my instructions nothing comes close to working like it does NOTHING. When you run it over 1750 RPM my burnisher will not last long and will not work. In about 2 weeks I will have my own motors, made in the USA, and sell you one for $59.99. I should have photos this weekend on the 2 different set ups. I will Email them to you if you would like. I ask that you reconsider running my burnisher over its design speed. Thank You Ivan Far be it from me to violate the manufacturer's suggested configuration! Send me the info on the new motor at breeliz AT verizon DOT net Ed... My Delta does not require belt change. It handles everything itself. It sometimes gets mixed reviews but I have never had a problem with it. Works like a champ in everything I ask it to do. http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/P...ProductID=11420 Quote Ride Safe! Bree 2003 Dyna Wide Glide Memberships: Iron Butt Association, Niagara Falls HOG, Wild Fire HOG NRA, Niagara County Sportsman's Association
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