rickmc Report post Posted October 18, 2014 I purchased a cobra class 4 from Leather machine company, I love it!!! the service is great, the machine is wonderful, I have a customer that wants a little wallet out of napa calf skin, was wondering if I could sew it on my Monster, and what would be the smallest needle and thread I could use. been working leather off and on for 40 years, but just got a sewing machine. Great on hands....Thank you Steve and Dave you guys are the best.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverwingit Report post Posted October 18, 2014 I've read/heard that you can use down to size 69 thread but I've never tried it because I've also heard that you have to fiddle a lot with your tensions to get it to work. That's not worth it to me as my tensions are set well and work as is when I change threads and I don't want to enter "tension Twilight Zone" to use smaller threads. I stitch harmonica pouches made of two layers of very thin garment and upholstery leathers with my Class 4 all day long using size 138 thread and size 22 needles. Then I'll sew a 2-layer belt with size 277 thread and a size 25 needle. All I have to do is change needles and threads. Unless you feel that you really need smaller thread, I'd try that combination of 138 thread and a 22 needle. If that doesn't yield stitches that appeal to you, then go for the size 69 thread and please let us know how you fare resetting your tensions. BTW, you may find this chart helpful if you don't already have it: http://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html Good luck, Michelle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickmc Report post Posted October 19, 2014 thank you kindly, Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharon Mallory Report post Posted October 19, 2014 Great to know! Thanks for the info. What size needle for the 22, that's what I need to get . Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites