Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 I have acquired a used consew 227. The problem is bottom thread has always been loose/looping. I have tried adjusting the tension on bobbin/taking out bobbin and removing debris ect. Upon removing many parts i do notice the needle is hitting the bobin case on its way down. Pretty sure this is not a good thing. Please help Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Is the needle hitting the hook "hard" and you cannot sew or is it deflecting the needle or is just the hook tip touching the needle? its always a good idea to post some pictures or a video of what is going wrong. Most likely your timing is off or you have insert the the needle in a wrong angle. Edited January 12, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 the needle appears to just nick the hook then as it lowers some more it hits the bobbin case and you can see the needle bend a bit. i have pics and video but not sure how to post vid. i have to resize pic first as well. thanks for the response. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 in the lower right corner is a brown button "MORE REPLAY OPTIONS" there you can upload the files. I would assume you just have to adjust the needle bar a little bit. Check if you have insert your needle correctly. The needle scarf has to face exactly right (towards the hook). When you turn the hand wheel the hook tip has to meet the needle scarf about 1.6mm above the needle eye. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 Thank you so much for your replies and help. I want this machine to stitch perfectly, even if i have to repkace it piece by piece! Heres a pic. The needle just barely bends and hits casing. The needle bar?/holder looks a bit banged up too. Maybe i should replace thus before messing with timing. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 sorry - no pictures... Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 sorry. pics are too big. when i get home i will resize on computer and post them. Quote
Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 hrre is a pic of needle hitting basket Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) That is the needle deflector, you can carefully adjust it / bend a tiny bit but be really carefull!!!! But before you do that check if the hook tip meets the needle scarf ~ 1.6mm above the needle eye when the needle bar is on the upwards stroke. BTW - your hook tip is broken or blunt as it seems but I´m not sure it just looks like. Edited January 12, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jessie1129 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 i just checked. on upward motion the hook makes contact with the scarf right around that 1.6 mark. is the needle supposed to make contact with the hook and that deflector below the hook like that?? Quote
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