Tool Bags

[Paddywhompus]

Can someone tell me how exactly they take bridle leather that's 8/9oz (they claim in a video) and flip it like that?

This pouch http://www.occidentaltoolpouch.com/Occidental-Leather-5017DB-3-Pouch-ProTool-Bag-5017DB.htm is made out of 8/9oz bridle leather.

I went to the leather shop and they say that bridle leather can be as stiff as veg tanned leather but will hold less water making it less supple. I don't understand how they can make it flip inside out at that thickness. I'm still slightly new to leather so can someone help me understand this or provide some insight? Thanks.

I'm building a tool pouch for work much like that one, but more specific to my tools and occupation.

[electrathon]

It will turn. Do it over a dowel or hammer handle to force it.

[Paddywhompus]

It will turn. Do it over a dowel or hammer handle to force it.

Well in my previous attempts I was able to get it to flip but it was very hard and ended up crinkling the leather. I'd like to be able to keep the face as smooth as possible without it crinkling on me.

Now another question I have is their pouches are very supple, it's very bendy. Do you think there is a particular type of bridle leather that's milled or something they're using? It was mentioned to try milled veg tanned leather but the lady said it would also be very difficult to flip inside out. I'm just getting some mixed answers and I've seen the video of them making their pouches and they flip them very easily, so I know it can be done. I just need to find the right combination?

I'm cornfused because they claim bridle leather can be as stiff as veg but I read all over bridle is supposed to be way more supple than veg is and can be because of the bridle tanning process. That confuses me too.

EDIT: The lowest I want to go is 6/7oz because I feel it has the thickness that will be suitable for my work. I've already made a drill holster for myself for work, a leather tool belt and suspenders with a cell phone case. They've all held up really well through all kinds of weather, so I feel like veg tan leather can hold up just as well as bridle. Although I have yet to make anything out of bridle leather because I can only find full sides and not just pieces.

Edited July 12, 2015 by Paddywhompus

[Geneva]

I must not be very bright, I don't know what you are trying to "flip". I don't see anything that needs to be "flipped".

I think the only thing that is made from 8 or 9 oz. material is the back of the tool pouch. Everything else is 6 oz. and 4 oz. . That one loop on the front might be made of 8 oz.

[Paddywhompus]

I must not be very bright, I don't know what you are trying to "flip". I don't see anything that needs to be "flipped".

I think the only thing that is made from 8 or 9 oz. material is the back of the tool pouch. Everything else is 6 oz. and 4 oz. . That one loop on the front might be made of 8 oz.

http://www.occidentalleather.com/videos.php

That's their company site and the first video demonstrates how they make them, you can see around 2:00 they make them inside out via sewing machine. Then around 2:55 you see the guy flipping it on a pole inside out.

That's what I'm wondering, how they're taking such thick constructed leather and doing that. If you look at the photos of the pouch you see the seams where it's sewn are thicker than the hem.

EDIT: Plus a few guys I work with own Occidentals, and they are sewn all the way down the seam, so they have to be flipped.

Edited July 12, 2015 by Paddywhompus

[Geneva]

The bag is made from 7 oz. material (not 8oz) and sewn inside out and turned right side out when it is finished sewing that is where the steel pole and the guy with the muscles comes in. It is then ready for the next operation of the assembly.

Hope that helped.

[Paddywhompus]

In a way, it doesn't answer the question of --- is bridle leather that supple or do they oil it/water it to allow them to do that? I don't know if they water it because it would leave impressions on the leather, which their leather does not have any. It's a real head scratcher, but I am very curious to figure out how it's done.