Adler 105-27 Variant

[Constabulary]

If I remember correctly (haven't worked with one lately) the screw and lock lever is for adjusting the foot lift light hight while operating. Just test it. Makes a lot of noise this type of machine. At least the Adler 4 / 5 with this mechanism did. I once removed the entire mechanism fro a friend machine and installed a regular presser foot. Advantage: He can use the easier to find Singer 45K feet and it is less noisy. Downside: He no longer has the top feed.

[GPaudler]

18 hours ago, Uwe said:

LOVE that stand!!!

Thanks Constabulary, that makes sense, I probably fiddled with it with the presser foot in the up position so didn't detect any change.

Thanks Uve, I've really enjoyed all the Adler stuff you've posted.

[Darren Brosowski]

I have a 205-25 here that has the same feed mechanism.

The bottom feed is set with the standard lever at the right but the top feed is set independently with the mechanism at the left. This allows differential feed.

 

 

[Trox]

Hi GPaudler, that plate was not lying; this is exactly the same machine as the older Cl. 5-27 a proper 105-27. And what a nice looking set up you have there, very nice stand!

Darren, what difference this from a class -25 is the spring loaded jump foot, the -25 has a driven upper foot. This foot only follows the material backwards and jump forward again caused by the springs action (no feeding action). This is still a bottom feed only, but the jump foot will allow sewing with much lower foot pressure; then again less markings on bottom side leather. Adler made this system for sewing leather, who invented it I do not know.

Anyway, it's forerunner cl. 5-27 was a leather machine for saddlers and the best lockstitch for the job at the time of manufacturing. I cannot find any record of the 105-27 anywhere. But I'm used to surprises from the Adler company, they made a lot of special machines there are no record of anymore (available online anyway)

I've used my old 5-27 for many years before I upgraded to a 441, I've sewed 16 mm. thick leather on it. I have all the saddlers attachments for it, my good old backup machine is still in mint condition. 

About adjusting the jump foot: the screw you are asking about (front face side of the head) is for adjusting the jump foot hight. You have to adjust is just as high as it clears the material on its way back. You will here it clicks back in forward position. Adjusted to low it will not return forwards again. To high does not really matters, but then it will lift unnecessarily high; it's to much mechanical work for the machine that slowing it down. Adjust it just high enough to clear the material and lock it in place with the locking lever (one armed wing nut) inside the screw.  There are a short description in the user manual for the Adler class 4 and 5. It's also a description of the different attachments and sewing techniques of these machines, machines with the "mitgehende näfuss" spring loaded jumpfoot. (I do not have the proper characters on my tablet to write it correct in German). We have posted this (German) manual here before and I belive that Constabulary saved all the files I posted in to one pdf. (I have it in 23 pdf files, each containing one page of the manual) Or do I remember wrongly? If so I will post them again.

Very nice work with you stand, I love it! If your shuttle tension does not tension thin threads anymore, then your bobbin thread spring is worn out. They usually do after some time. There are no Springs available for this open type shuttle. However, you can change it for the newer closed type shuttle of same size. (Use the one for the Adler and not the Singer 45, they have different hook tips but look very simmilar) DA part # 0005 002904 is the new small shuttle (for this you can buy separate bobbin springs and screws for too, your old open type shuttle is not supported anymore) I know this will be of importance for you in the future, if it's not already. You can also buy this (#0005 002904) shuttle from Japanese Hirose or Italian Ceralini. Cowboy sewing machine (Hightex) in China also have it available. Good luck with your beautiful machine.

PS. Here is a pic of the old closed shuttle #05 195  for the Adler cl. 4 and 5. It looks like this shuttle is in your machine now, cannot be sure before you take a better picture, thought.

Tor 

 

   

[GPaudler]

Wow Tor and Darren! Thanks for all the great information. So far, I'm able to achieve the correct bobbin tension but I've only used 277 and 346 thread. I'll search for the  class 5 manual.

Gary

[GPaudler]

"PS. Here is a pic of the old closed shuttle #05 195  for the Adler cl. 4 and 5. It looks like this shuttle is in your machine now, cannot be sure before you take a better picture, though."

Hi Tor,

Here's the photo for which you asked. What years did Adler make the 105?

Thanks for all your insights.

Oh yeah, I've searched for the Adler Class 4&5 manual that you mentioned but haven't found it. Could you please direct me to that? I'd love to see the saddlers' attachments that you spoke-of.

Adler Shuttle

Edited May 1, 2016 by GPaudler

[Trox]

Hi, I cannot see the picture of the shuttle. The manual are in German. I can send you the 23 pdf´s, you can print them out on paper. Send me your email in an PM (better not show it here to avoid spammers) Here is the saddlers attachment pack for Adler class 5. It's pretty much the same as the one for the Singer 45K.  The feed dog for the flat plate is on the machine. You have different guides, binder, knife and many different presser feets. A double harness guide and some bits and screws. (the little shuttle, left in pic # 2 do not belong to this machine. In fact I do not know where it belongs, came with the machine when I bought it several years ago) Send me your email address and I will give you the pdf ´s.

Tor

[GPaudler]

Hi Trox,

That's quite a treasure trove of Adler parts. My local Adler dealer tells me that a single presser foot costs about $300. I have purchased zero of them. Here's the photo of the shuttle that I failed to attach last time. It also happens to show a presser foot that I made.

 

[JBY127]

Hi all,

 

I am new to this forum and just started another discussion thread titled Adler 105 

I have a query related to identifying the model and capability of a similar Adler 105 to the ones discussed here and have posted a few pictures of the machine. 

If anyone is able to help me out please take a look as it seems as though some of you know a bit about Adlers.

 

Thanks,

 

JBY

[Trox]

On Friday, May 06, 2016 at 0:50 AM, GPaudler said:

Hi Trox,

That's quite a treasure trove of Adler parts. My local Adler dealer tells me that a single presser foot costs about $300. I have purchased zero of them. Here's the photo of the shuttle that I failed to attach last time. It also happens to show a presser foot that I made.

 

Hi, yes that's a old open type class 4/5 shuttle. That also came in the first 105 Machines. There is one (new)f or sale on Ebay right now, 159 US$. I think that foot you made look very nice. It's an easy machine to make presser foot for.

Tor