Can You Mix Spirit Dye With Oil Dye To Get A Custom Colour?

[ekfkin]

I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to add spirit dye to an oil dye, since they are both technically alchohol based, in order to create a new colour?

Thanks

[grmnsplx]

Probably. Try it out and post your results.

[ChuckBurrows]

Yes since as you noted they both have the same base, have done it for years - the Fiebing's Oil dye is just an improved version of the standard spirit dye and per the MSDS does not contain oil...

[backtobasic]

Hello!!
When you say spirit dyes do you mean the fiebing oil dyes?

I work with chrome tanned leathers as your boots that you send me in other topic. And i would make the leather with more vintage look. You suggest me to use spirit dyes. Does Spirit dyes be oil fiebing dyes?

For finish which product can i use? ( it is for watch strap so i don't want to let stains or discolor on my wrist. I don't want the finish product to change the color or the texture of the leather)
Thanks

[alyshae]

I contacted fiebings after accidentally mixing oil and spirit dues and they said it's no problem, mix away

[ChuckBurrows]

backtobasic, on 16 Oct 2015 - 1:27 PM, said:

Hello!!

When you say spirit dyes do you mean the fiebing oil dyes?

I work with chrome tanned leathers as your boots that you send me in other topic. And i would make the leather with more vintage look. You suggest me to use spirit dyes. Does Spirit dyes be oil fiebing dyes?

For finish which product can i use? ( it is for watch strap so i don't want to let stains or discolor on my wrist. I don't want the finish product to change the color or the texture of the leather)

Thanks

Either Fiebings Standard or their oil dyes - whichever I have in hand at the time is what I use and generally use the standard dyes which offer more colors to begin with and at a cheaper price point...

[ChuckBurrows]

PS you probably should use one of the good acrylic type finishes to prevent rub off - I generally use thinned down Mop n Glo floor polish for those items I don't ever want to rub off or sweat off...

Edited January 3, 2016 by ChuckBurrows

[NVLeatherWorx]

And you can even mix both versions of their spirit dyes, regular or oil, with their Antique paste line to get even more hues and colors. Just can't mix ANY water based products with any of the spirit based products. But, as stated earlier, mix away and have fun with it.

[TinkerTailor]

Don't never mix no dye with resolene, and never use it on no edges...........You ain't gonna get the result you werent lookin fer.

Edited January 3, 2016 by TinkerTailor

[ChuckBurrows]

NVLeatherWorx, on 03 Jan 2016 - 09:37 AM, said: Just can't mix ANY water based products with any of the spirit based products. But, as stated earlier, mix away and have fun with it.

Perhaps oddly but one I have used 70% rubbing/isopropyl alcohol as a thinner for over 50 years and it's 30% water, plus I have mixed some homemade water based dyes (walnut is one) with spirit dyes for years as well, and I ALWAYS water dampen my leather all the way through when dying. Not a recommendation but based on my experience it can work, but then again I generally practice on a scrap of the same leather since every hide and bottle of dye can vary to a degree.

As always others mileage will vary.....

[Dwight]

Perhaps oddly but one I have used 70% rubbing/isopropyl alcohol as a thinner for over 50 years and it's 30% water, plus I have mixed some homemade water based dyes (walnut is one) with spirit dyes for years as well, and I ALWAYS water dampen my leather all the way through when dying. Not a recommendation but based on my experience it can work, but then again I generally practice on a scrap of the same leather since every hide and bottle of dye can vary to a degree.

As always others mileage will vary.....

Thanks, Chuck...........

May God bless,

Dwight

[ChuckBurrows]

You're welcome Dwight and yes I'm one of those that when told you CAN'T do something just has to try...

part of this of course is being able to accept failure, albeit I don't think of my unsuccessful experiments as being failures, but like Edison, I just figure that I found ways NOT to do something (a paraphrase of his comments on his experiments with light bulbs)

[TinkerTailor]

If you look at Fiebings whole catalog, there are quite a few products that come in dyed versions for other markets like shoe repair and horse grooming. You know they are just mixing their own products together and selling them. I bet you can mix dye with almost all of their products.

Atom wax comes in black and they say to use similar colored atom wax on colored leathers for restoration...........

They throw some dye in resolene and sell it as edge coat for shoes......and hoof paint for more money....All industries do this. The truth is in the MSDS sheets. Weaver and springfield have them online.

I also suspect the institutional leather finish is carnauba cream.