ppz Report post Posted October 5, 2015 I just found this machine for sale and it seems like it will be suited for sewing heavy vegtan leather. It is quite expensive so I want to know if there are spare parts to buy. I don't recognize the brand logo(I'll attach that in the next post) Can some one tell me if this might be worth 300 miles and about $1000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Careful; it looks like it may be setup as an edge binder machine. If so, the feed dog may not assist with moving material. In any case, it is only a medium duty sewing machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ppz Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Ok, thanks for the input Wizcrafts. Here is another picture of the bed and foot. I'm looking to do vests belts and bags, from 2-5mm(4-9Oz?) This might not be the machine for me then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Those feet have serrated bottoms used to claw binding material over the edges of stuff. They could mark vegtan leather pretty badly. I cannot tell from looking at the feed dog if it moves four ways (standard drop feed), or two ways (binding feeder). But, it seems to be a binder machine at first appearance. A normal "drop feed" feed dog moves forward while under the top of the throat plate, then up just above the plate, then back the set stitch length, then drops down. A binder feed dog only moves forward and backward, not up and down. A binder feed dog will fight you during normal sewing operations. If that machine has a binder feed dog it is no good for normal sewing of any material, much less leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ppz Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Got a video sent of the bed action. Looks like a drop feed or am I getting it wrong? Still don't know the brand of the machine so I don't know if I can get spare parts and accessories to it. trim.F4366876-A169-426E-90B2-287C10B732D3.MOV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 6, 2015 It is not a drop feed machine. The feed dog just moves forward and backward. It is not a leather capable sewing machine at all. Just for sewing binding over the edges. But, the binder attachment is not mounted onto the bracket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ppz Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Thank you Wiz! I'll look for another machine. Let me know if you need something from Sweden, I owe you one for not buying the wrong machine. //Niclas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 7, 2015 Thank you Wiz! I'll look for another machine. Let me know if you need something from Sweden, I owe you one for not buying the wrong machine. //Niclas Sure, I could use a Frobana or Junker and Ruh hand cranked sole stitcher! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARK9 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 >>A normal "drop feed" feed dog moves forward while under the top of the throat plate, then up just above the plate, then back the set stitch length, then drops down. A binder feed dog only moves forward and backward, not up and down. A binder feed dog will fight you during normal sewing operations. If that machine has a binder feed dog it is no good for normal sewing of any material, much less leather.<< Don't Pfaff 335's (and the numerous of copies) use this same type of lower feed? My copy (a Mitsubishi 865) is a walking foot/needle feed with the back and forth *only* feed dog, where the center foot captures the material against the feed dog in unison with the needle feed on the stitch, then lifts when the dog returns forward. It feeds material like gangbusters, and I've not noticed any variation in stitch length. Is the "binder" variant not a needle feed? -DC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Yeah, sorry wiz, you got me mukin fuddled too!! i have a 335 and it sews leather no problem?? it has practically the same set up too?? the only difference is i have a single toe to the left. this is what i have managed to sew with this. regards jimi. . Edited October 7, 2015 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 8, 2015 Fascinating video. I must get a walking foot post machine! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
