jhstong Report post Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Hi Everyone, I am able to get the Seiko CW-8b (cheapest), Pfaff 335 and a Techsew 2700 (most expensive) machines, around the same price as each other, from reputable dealers that would provide help after the sale. The Pfaff and Seiko are used, in great condition, and come with servo motors. So which one should I get? I am making small leather goods and bags at the moment and want a well made machine that will last and sew with 138 thread (maybe 207, but I know that might not be realistic). I look forward to any help. Thanks! Edited November 28, 2015 by jhstong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) If the Seiko has reverse I´d buy the Seiko, 2nd the Techsew and last the Pfaff 335. Pfaff 335 at last because accessories and parts are more expensive and I like the drop in bobbin feature of the other 2 other and I think the horizontal hook can handle thicker thread. My 2 cents. Edited November 28, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhstong Report post Posted November 28, 2015 Great, thanks so much. I was leaning towards the Seiko anyways since it's the closest to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Not sure where you are located, but I am guessing that you are close to raphaels sewing, and the 2700 as well as the used pfaff is from there. If not, disregard the rest. I have had good experiences with them, and have had a machine shipped across the country. No issues, However: Nothing wrong with my techsew functionally, a german built machine will have much better build quality, and smoother edges on parts with closer tolerances. It is a better built machine. I have seen pfaff 335s in good shape sell on both coasts selling on craigslist/kijiji for 1000-1400 cad over the last year with a clutch and usually only binder setup. The one at raphaels comes partially setup in the pic as a binder it appears.They are stitching leather with it but some of the binder pieces are still with the machine. It may be the better deal if they will send it set up for stitching leather, and it comes with the binder stuff. It does come with their table and servo, which is also a 400-500 dollar upgrade to a machine with a clutch and clapped out table. The machine pictured still has pretty pristine paint on the arm, at least the paint does not show alot of hard use, may be a low milage machine. There are asian cheaper options for alot of the accessories to avoid stealership pricing on genuine pfaff. If i was buying a middle weight leather machine from raphaels, i would get the pfaff myself, and negotiate to get as many feet and accessories i can. If you are in eastern canada, also phone simard sewing, they also advertise on this site. Toledo sewing is also an option as i believe importing industrial sewing machines to Canada for manufacturing use is duty free. It is to help foster the Canadian garment industry (i think there is duty if you import the machines to resell them) Edited November 28, 2015 by TinkerTailor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhstong Report post Posted November 28, 2015 That's very helpful. Thank you so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites