Pfaff 145c

[Neugi]

I am fairly new to leatherwork and looking at sewing machines, I have run across a Pfaff 145c walking foot with servo motor and table at a local dealer fo $800. I have tried to do some research on this machine but would like to get some opinions from those who know. I am interested mostly in belts and holsters, have made some bags/purses for friends and relatives and I'm really tired of hand stitching. My question is this machine able to sew thicker material like belts and is this a fair price?

Thanks,

Neugi

Edited May 28, 2016 by Neugi

[vonkas]

because it's flatbed it will be of limited use for your purpose. Pfaff 345 is the one you need.

[Uwe]

Doing a Google search like "site:leatherworker.net Pfaff 145" will bring up previous discussions about a particular machine model or class (like Pfaff 145/545/1245), like the one listed below. Pfaff in general are high quality machines, with comparatively expensive, but generally available parts. General previous discussions about using Flatbed  vs. cylinder arm machines for various flat vs three dimensional projects apply. The Pfaff 145 should do well with flat projects like upholstery and belts, but stiff bags my present a challenge.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2016 by Uwe

[Kohlrausch]

8 hours ago, Neugi said:

I am fairly new to leatherwork and looking at sewing machines, I have run across a Pfaff 145c walking foot with servo motor and table at a local dealer fo $800. I have tried to do some research on this machine but would like to get some opinions from those who know. I am interested mostly in belts and holsters, have made some bags/purses for friends and relatives and I'm really tired of hand stitching. My question is this machine able to sew thicker material like belts and is this a fair price?

Thanks,

Neugi

Hi,

The "C" Pfaffs have a 2,2mm needlehole. According to the manual it's good for # 23 needles with T210 thread. There are also "H"-codes on the typeplate. H1 and H2 indicating 7 mm pressurefoot lift, H3 indicating 11 mm and H4 indicating 14 mm. Also there are "L"- and "S"-differences, L indicating a leather setup and S being short for Stoff, German for cloth. The L machines have a bigger hook.  As the machine has seen half a century of service all of this may be worn out or switched out or be out of alignment.

If I were you I'ld start out with a more common machine that is available for less money and once you have some experience of your own buy something according to your specific needs. The Pfaff would be a good (and common) starting point on my side of the atlantic ocean, on your side it may be easier to get a Singer. I paid 250 Euros for a well equipped and working 145 H2BS with stand and clutch motor. Yesterday I missed a 141 (needlefeed) with stand and motor for 50 Euros ;-) 800 USD may be fair for a perfectly adjusted (and perfectly suiting your needs) 145, but it is no bargain IMHO.

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/505004/Pfaff-145.html?page=8#manual

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/1053237/Pfaff-141.html?page=40#manual

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mSs3O2W0lXLQMAxb0zCQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByaW11dnNvBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1464454198/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2findustrialsewingmachineparts.co.uk%2fpfaff_145_545_partslist.pdf/RK=0/RS=JLe_ksO9bQuB7PFTpItU8Bs0_rY-

HTH

Greets

Ralf C.

Edited May 28, 2016 by Kohlrausch

[Neugi]

 

Thanks to all for your responses and advice, I think I'l pass on this one as I'm realizing I don't know enough yet to make a choice, I want to do some holsters and I can see now how hard that would be on a flatbed. Thanks again, I'll keep reading the forum and wait until I have a better idea of what will fit my needs.

Thanks again,

Neugi