Members Yetibelle Posted March 2, 2017 Members Report Posted March 2, 2017 I just looked at mine this morning before I left the house. Sure enough its flopping around, I thought it was suppose to do that why else would it be a link? - HAHA. - So I will see how to get that apart tonight and re-pin it. What else am I taking for granted? Once you have yours back up and working take another video so I can see how much play its suppose to move. Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members Gregg From Keystone Sewing Posted March 2, 2017 Members Report Posted March 2, 2017 Quote Industrial sewing and cutting, parts sales and service, family owned since 1977, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA, 215/922.6900 info@keysew.com www.keysew.com
Members Yetibelle Posted March 3, 2017 Members Report Posted March 3, 2017 I am taking it apart. I do have the screw and bolt for that lower section. I just pulled it so I could see how much play was in the upper part. I'm not sure what's up with that roller scew, I have a replacement. I'm still looking for that internal shaft part. I have one that is broken and one that looks like it has been welded to one end. Now that I am aware of this linkage, I'm surprised it just pins at each end? Why didn't they just use a set screws? Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members VanRhodes Posted March 3, 2017 Author Members Report Posted March 3, 2017 Thrash threasure: Please post som pictures of the Adler 20 you are restoring! Id love to see what you've got going on. On a side note, the hole in the shaft is very clean and not worn at all on mine. It was just a broken pin and the break was so clean I could barely make out the pin from the shaft when I took it apart. Yetibell, I have fixed it with a temporary pin for now and there is no play at all, what so ever in the linkage. Quote
Members trash treasure Posted March 3, 2017 Members Report Posted March 3, 2017 I'm glad you're able to fix it without having to ream and fit - it's just more stuff to have to buy, and more work to do I'll see about some photos - I only work on it in fits and starts, and it's still got a ways to go - I'm just spread too thin, I guess. I agree with Yetibell - The pinned arm doesn't seem like all that secure of a connection, for such a heavy duty machine, and the Adler is even more massive than the 7-33. But it is what it is, and you just have to try and do the best repair you can. Quote The model number giveth, and the subclass taketh away ......... Sometimes
Members Yetibelle Posted March 3, 2017 Members Report Posted March 3, 2017 So looking at the parts for this back assembly (I think I forgot one screw set) but I am close, I am trying to figure out the correct angle they need to be at. So does it go back together with them up and down, or to they have a little angle to them . See my rough diagram below. So the red circle would be the center. Also when you put this all back on - what position should the cam be at when you set it? I notice when I tighten that cam ring 11486 that connects to the top arm 58578, it all stops working so I must be doing something wrong. So what are the steps to "zero this in"? Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members Yetibelle Posted March 3, 2017 Members Report Posted March 3, 2017 Here is my Adler 20 - I have not started on this machine yet. It looks like the head was rebuilt with Singer parts. Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members VanRhodes Posted March 4, 2017 Author Members Report Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Yetibelle: What subclass is that Adler? I have the Adler 20-7 as well and it's massive, quite a lot bigger compared to the 7-33. My 20-7 has a SIMANCO shuttle race amongst other parts so I guess they're fairly similar in some aspects and I've also seen pictures of a Singer 7-class that is fairly similar in appearance to the 20-7. For my 7-33, they're more or less in line. Gregg linked me this as an alternative solution in case the rocking shaft I had wasnt repairable. http://store.keysew.com/catalog/product/95106499cbd74198a77839493fb3924e Not sure if it will fit yours, but it might be indicative of the angle between the two arms. Edited March 4, 2017 by VanRhodes Quote
Members Yetibelle Posted March 4, 2017 Members Report Posted March 4, 2017 Well that Adler doesn't have a class plate one it. It is the same size as the 7-31 so I narrowed it down to a 20-200. But with Singer head parts. I will take another look at the rocker shaft but it looks like when they drilled the peg hole it's at a slight angle facing out when you line up the pin. If you have a picture of yours restored that may help. Then I can see the correct angle. Thanks for the link. Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members trash treasure Posted March 4, 2017 Members Report Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) OK - I guess this is Adler show and tell, now - Here's a couple photos of my Adler 20 -19 I believe I'm the third owner - The original owner bought it NEW, and used it to sew hair-on buffalo robes - It still had some brown fur caught up in the innards The second owner couldn't deal with it at all, and just parked it in a shed - and so now it's mine. The little light on it is interesting - The vintage woodworking machine people refer to those as "retirement lights" - They were made by Delta Machinery, for use on their drill presses and band saws - I've seen them go for $100+ on Ebay This is where I'm at with it - Actually a little further on than when this shot was taken - I've since cleaned and painted the handwheel, and polished the rim, and cleaned and re-furbed most of the parts - It's painted with Rustoleum "Verde Green" hammertone paint - I was hoping it would come out a little more "hammered" looking, but at least it's clean and shiny, now . As far as I can tell, the parts (good or bad) on it are all Adler - No Singer swaps - But I'm no expert, and if something wasn't marked, I couldn't necessarily tell, just by looking .......... Here is where I'm thinking to go with it - This is a German military issue Adler, on it's special stand. I have pretty limited space in the shop, and being so compact, this could work out very well, with some good casters - It's also pretty cool looking Edited March 4, 2017 by trash treasure Quote The model number giveth, and the subclass taketh away ......... Sometimes
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