bushbow Report post Posted February 9, 2018 Can someone please help me figure out this type of stitch on these moccasins? Im pretty new to working with leather, and Im wanting to try and make a pair, but I just cant figure out how to replicate this stitch. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dun Report post Posted February 9, 2018 I think I have seen boat shoe stitching videos that did a saddle stitch before. Do you already have a pattern to go by? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webicons Report post Posted February 9, 2018 @bushbow Do a search on YouTube for Box Stitch. It looks similar to a stitch I did on a tube. Pay close attention to the curves. The stitch length on the outside is shorter than the tops. If you stitch straight through then it will look a little wonky. PM me if you have any questions and I'll try to walk you through it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted February 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, bushbow said: Can someone please help me figure out this type of stitch on these moccasins? Im pretty new to working with leather, and Im wanting to try and make a pair, but I just cant figure out how to replicate this stitch. Thanks! Looks like a machine-sewn moc toe. There are machines specifically designed for this sort of puckered/gathered seam, such as the Adler 105-25MO. These are modified over standard machines so that they have differential feeding on the top and bottom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webicons Report post Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Matt S said: Adler 105-25MO. These are modified over standard machines so that they have differential feeding on the top and bottom. That's incredible. I didn't know that you could adjust the feed of the top and bottom independently of each other. I'll have to read up on that! I'm looking at getting a machine this year so nice to know. Sorry back on topic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bushbow Report post Posted February 9, 2018 Thanks everyone! Do the edges of both ends of leather each have a 45 degree angle? I dont have a pattern, but I trying to make something close to these. http://www.arrowmoc.com/sa.html I've been having one hell of a time trying to figure out these were put together. Keep in mind Im new to a lot of this stuff. All Ive done is made a few quivers and sheaths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webicons Report post Posted February 9, 2018 It’s definitely skived down at the edges but I don’t think it needs to be a perfect 45. Just as long as it’s consistent throughout the seam it should be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingsCountyLeather Report post Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Webicons said: @bushbow Do a search on YouTube for Box Stitch. It looks similar to a stitch I did on a tube. Pay close attention to the curves. The stitch length on the outside is shorter than the tops. If you stitch straight through then it will look a little wonky. PM me if you have any questions and I'll try to walk you through it. That’s great stitching. Can you put a link to your YouTube video here please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webicons Report post Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, KingsCountyLeather said: That’s great stitching. Can you put a link to your YouTube video here please? Thanks King! - I apologize if I made it seem that I made a video of it. Unfortunately I didn't film it but I wrote some of my thoughts on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Leathercraft/comments/7tpnhe/box_stitched_tube/?st=jdggdmyf&sh=74b0948c It took me a while to come up with a system that worked for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingsCountyLeather Report post Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Webicons said: Thanks King! - I apologize if I made it seem that I made a video of it. Unfortunately I didn't film it but I wrote some of my thoughts on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Leathercraft/comments/7tpnhe/box_stitched_tube/?st=jdggdmyf&sh=74b0948c It took me a while to come up with a system that worked for me. Such a shame you didn’t.... beautiful job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Webicons said: That's incredible. I didn't know that you could adjust the feed of the top and bottom independently of each other. I'll have to read up on that! I'm looking at getting a machine this year so nice to know. Sorry back on topic... I don't think many machines are offered with differential-feeding options, certainly in leather-suitable machines. The Adler 105-25MO sprung to mind since I've seen a few for sale last year. It's a more common feature on garment machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolangherity Report post Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) not the same stitch but i noticed in this video that he inserts a tool into each seam while sewing to get that pucker. its around the 3 min mark: ken diamond moccasin video Edited February 25, 2018 by nolangherity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
