Guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) thats a cool write up on the seat dave.now by super glueing washers to the top of the pan when you push the rivet thru they dont pop up at all.i make the bottom part the same way by riveting the bottom without the washers but willing to try something diffrent.and the foam how much does the neoprene adhesive back stuff go for?thanks DAN Hey Dan, Good questions, I use the washers because the holes in the pan are quite large and the rivets are much smaller in diameter....I could get a larger diameter rivet that is also a bit shorter but that would be a special order and it is WAY cheaper to buy what the hardware stores carry rather than special order simple things like rivets. I would have to order several thousand special sized rivets to make it pay....I only use 22 per seat....that is a lot of seats just to get a small price break on rivets. The washers hold well enough for me to get the rivets in place...once the rivets are locked down, the super glue doesn't matter any more. As you can see from my seat back pictures, the rivet holes are pre-punched and when I'm riveting to the pan the holes are perfectly lined up.....If you wet mold that isn't possible. The last time I did a cost break down, I was paying about $8-$10 per seat for the adhesive backed neoprene. They sell it in full sheets (about 18 seats) or half sheets. Foam and more's delivery service is great too. If I order on Monday morning, I have it by Wednesday at the latest. Once you use it, you will never go back to glueing down your padding. It isn't cheap, but it is the ONLY way to go..... For you guys who do other things than bike seats the adhesive/neoprene comes in thicknesses down to 1/8". The sticky stuff is way better than any glue or double stick tape....try it you'll like it! Edited June 24, 2007 by David Quote
Members valdez Posted June 25, 2007 Members Report Posted June 25, 2007 Hi david im from san diego if you don,t mind me asking u how much should someone charge for something like that how much does just the pan cost u david . awsome job man thats one heck of a seat man all the seat i see on this web are great one of kind,differe-nt styles . nice work man. Quote
Guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Hi david im from san diego if you don,t mind me asking u how much should someone charge for something like that how much does just the pan cost u david . awsome job man thats one heck of a seat man all the seat i see on this web are great one of kind,differe-nt styles . nice work man. Thanks for the compliment... the answer to your questions involve the working relationship that I have with my main client so let me respond this way. The seat pans will cost in the neighborhood of $50+ the seat when finished should retail for somewhere in the area of $625. I hope that is what you are looking for. Dave Quote
Guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 (edited) Ok now the front of the seat has its decorative lacing in place it is time to attach it to the seat pan and then start the final basketweave lacing. When you begin to tie down the seat top; start in the middle of the seat at the front and back and tie down in both directions; it looks bad to start out, but as you continue, it will finally come together. Add a tie down on boths sides of the seat in front then both sides of the seat in the back.....I put a tie down in either every other hole or every third hole. Of course these are cut out as you get to them in your basketweave lacing. This evening I start the basketweave that holds the whole thing together. Dave Theobald Edited June 25, 2007 by David Quote
Roger Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 i ordered 3/16" rivets to use on those pans. also got them in black. i'll send you some if you want to check them out david Quote
Members mulefool Posted June 26, 2007 Members Report Posted June 26, 2007 Boy, you've really got everything working for you, excellent composition and clean execution. Really nice. you know I don't know the first thing about motorcycles and I had no idea of the things folks did with the seats until I joined this board. There's some incredible work out there. Next time I see a bunch of those things parked at the local cafe, I'm gonna go over and check them out. Quote www.horseandmulegear.com
Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted June 26, 2007 Contributing Member Report Posted June 26, 2007 gotta have a good saddle on your horse.... even if it is an iron one... Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
Guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Hey all, Finally done except for staining. The basketweave is structural on this seat....(it really does hold the thing together) This basketweave was down 3.5 hour from my usual so I guess my new patterns are paying off a bit. Hope you have all enjoyed this. I did. Take care, Dave Quote
Guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) This is the final....The customer wanted a near black seat to go on his black and silver Sucker Punch. There you go guys and gals. That's it from beginning to end. Hope you enjoyed the thread and hope that it didn't get to boring. Dave Edited June 26, 2007 by David Quote
Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted June 26, 2007 Contributing Member Report Posted June 26, 2007 please tell me that you took pix step by step as you finished her.... If not, please do so on your next project... This turned out great... the customer should be floored! Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
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