charon Report post Posted March 30, 2018 Hi, I wonder whether anyone here has some advice for me. Having played pool for about 15 years and having started leatherworking now, I want to build a pool cue case (2 butts 4 top shafts) I‘ve seen that the pinned box zipper thread is used for a cue case and I‘ve seen one thread mentioning a cue case, which has the images removed, but hhere‘s no thread really handling the how to. Which material is used best as tubes? How to line the tubes? Whats the best approach for a top and bottom? What weighs are used best?How do I get started best?... Thanks for any advice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted March 31, 2018 See the following posts I found by searching for "cue case" (including the quotation marks to avoid all the other kinds of cases). Many posts by JohnBarton are quite informative. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLDNSLOW Report post Posted March 31, 2018 No one here seems to want to share much info on case making, it is something that I would like to get info on myself and there isn't much to find on the web Jb cases makes a nice case but doesn't share much. If you happen to find out more than I have please share as I would like to make a few, leather isn't the first craft I have been interested in but the one that is the case of cases anyway that is again hard to find any info on. Maybe the makers are a little afraid of competition but I have always flet that there is always enough work to go around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted March 31, 2018 With respect Oldnslow; I don't think thats the reasons. I reckon its because there are mighty few on here who have made a case, or do so at any time. Look how old the threads are Northmount found. Most of us make belts, bags, sheaths, holsters, saddles etcetera, but I don't read many talking about their cases. Its kinda more specialised Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon Report post Posted March 31, 2018 Ok I did the exact same search (with the quotes) and got over 3k results with none of yours being on the first 5 pages, so either I‘m too stupid to use the search function or you used a different function than me (the magnifying flass on top?). Anyhow, as Oldnslow said most of the information is held back because its their trade secret. It‘s everyones right to do so, my philosophy is a bit different. A craft cannot grow or develop without sharing of information. But the JB pattern seems to be a good starting point. I‘d see that I can get some tubes and just try to start. Will share the progress when I get to make it in terms of materials, patterns,... The greaters mystery so far for me is the proper lining of the tubes so if anyone has some experience with it I‘d love to hear it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted March 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, charon said: Ok I did the exact same search (with the quotes) and got over 3k results with none of yours being on the first 5 pages, so either I‘m too stupid to use the search function or you used a different function than me (the magnifying flass on top?). Anyhow, as Oldnslow said most of the information is held back because its their trade secret. It‘s everyones right to do so, my philosophy is a bit different. A craft cannot grow or develop without sharing of information. But the JB pattern seems to be a good starting point. I‘d see that I can get some tubes and just try to start. Will share the progress when I get to make it in terms of materials, patterns,... The greaters mystery so far for me is the proper lining of the tubes so if anyone has some experience with it I‘d love to hear it I may have reversed the sort to put oldest posts first. Another good way to search is to use google and restrict the search to this site by including "site:leatherworker.net" without the quotes as part of the search string. I do remember there being something about lining the tubes from my browsing a few years ago. It might have been on JB's website too. Not sure. Anyhow, you're not so stupid. And more experience will help make searches work better for you. Google's search engines and databases are indexed far better than this site's so I often use it. More powerful, more money to play with! Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted March 31, 2018 Here are a couple more where lining was included in a google search. First used upholstery velvet. Second one gives info on selecting the lining. http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/53350-wet-formed-cue-case/ http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/14305-dragon-protection/ Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLDNSLOW Report post Posted April 1, 2018 If you look around in that market place you will find that there are maybe only a hand full of guys that make custom cases JB being one of them. That is not counting the one's that are one off, but the one's that do specialize really don't share much about what they do, in fact some of them will go to the extra mile to nock those that offer a product that is close in similarity, there are a great deal many cases that come in from China that flood the market. I have to finish this later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLDNSLOW Report post Posted April 1, 2018 Continuing where I left off, China is flooding the market with the cheaply made cases that flood the market with the stuff that comes for there, there is one Canadian company that is making cases that are very similar to cases that JB makes. It would be interesting to find out if JB worries about competition and does not want to share info? But there are tons of people that are introduced to the game of pool every year some of those people have the desire to go on and learn more about the game and will be interested in buying equipment. The stigma of the game is changing, and there are now more amateur tournaments all over the country that allows for the lessor ability player to compete and possibly make a few bucks as well as enjoy themselves doing it, that will be interested in buying equipment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon Report post Posted April 4, 2018 It is a niche market for sure but I don't think there's that much of a competition in terms of "stealing" customers. Everyone has his own style and preferences and I think only few of us consider joining that market on a professional level. As I said, I've been a pool player for 15+ years and since I'm now into leatherwork of course I'd like to make a case for myself and if it turns out ok maybe for some guys I know. But it is as it was already mentioned: there are few pool players that do want to pay $500+ for a cue case and since I know now how much work making one would be I wouldn't want to make them for business anyway (since I don't own a sewing machine I'd have to hand sew it anyway and that's not practical if you want to sell items).You're better off doing saddles, wallets and belts for earning your rent. I mean there's no black magic to making those cases, it's basically a few tubes lined and glued together and wrap some leather around it. And I'm not asking for business secrets but a hit which fabric to use for the inside and how to line the tubes properly would help a lot. The rest is making straps, boxes and closing mechanisms... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLDNSLOW Report post Posted April 4, 2018 I agree with everything your saying good luck we are on the same path of discovery! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
