sulla Report post Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) I make turn shoes for mostly reenacting purposes. I have decided to up my game by doing some edge trim on a two-toggle Scandinavian turn shoe. The trim is skived to about half or 1/3 thickness on one side. The thicker side of the trim is first butt-seamed to the edge of the upper leather. Then it is turned over so the thinner skived side is inside the shoe and is then stitched to the inside of the leather upper with a sort of hidden whip stitch. These whip stitches do not show through the leather. I understand how to do the butt stitch, but I was wondering if there were any tricks or techniques or even special tools for this. I have some shallow curve bladed awls but have not used them for this purpose. (first image is a process photo by Simurlan. The images of completed shoes are made by Alexey Nikifovorov. ) Edited June 7, 2018 by sulla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugadude Report post Posted June 7, 2018 I don't see why this technique wouldn't work on thin leather using glover's needles. https://www.google.com/search?q=hidden+whip+stitch&oq=hidden+whip+&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0.6696j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sulla Report post Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Thanks! I've used that stitch too many times to count when sewing cloth but never with leather. I hadn't thought about that with a glovers' needle. Here is an image of the construction from a book I have. I wonder if in step 'c' the holes in the upper are pre-punched with a strait or curved awl, sewn through with a strait or curved needle, or something else? The books offer no further suggestions as to method of construction for this type of seam. Edited June 7, 2018 by sulla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugadude Report post Posted June 7, 2018 That is similar to what is typically called a rolled edge. Personally I think your leather is thin enough and soft enough to not need an awl, curved or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites