Tippman Boss Trade?

[Tangent Creations]

Hey all! This is probably a long shot... But I have an industrial heavy material machine and I can't use it. The stitches are too big, and it's too fast for me, though I do have the assembly for the belt to slow it down. I don't know anything about the big machines, so the bobbin cradle (can't remember what it's called) timing is off, and I don't know what needles it takes... I would like to acquire a Tippman Boss and am willing to trade for one. I paid $1700 for the industrial. If anyone is interested in trading or seeing this machine, pm me. I am in Indiana just outside Bloomington.

[Art]

Hi,

That isn't the greatest machine with all the bells and whistles, however it should be adequate or more. What are you trying to sew with your machine? While it may be a heavy stitcher (can't tell by photo) it usually can be setup to do just what you want, from heavy to fine. I had a Boss once, but got tired of using it (physically) as it requires quite a stroke for a stitch, do a couple of belts with it and you're done. It also has a problem with short stroking (especially when in a hurry or tired, and my fault not the Boss's) that really fouls things up. I sold mine to a farrier who keeps it in his truck for occasional harness repair, he loves it for that. I thought about keeping it so I could have the opportunity to blame everything on the Boss. Seriously, consider the Boss carefully and ask others here for their opinions. But like I said, what you have should work fine. Call Indianapolis Sewing Machine Co. (317-322-0875, 6830 Industry Place Suite A, Indianapolis 46219) and see if you can bring it in for setup, take along sewing samples so they can set it up to sew what you want. Install the speed reducer and invest ($150) in a servo motor and you will fight with anyone who wants to take it away. It probably uses a 794 needle, Schmetz is a good Brand, get a D ir Tri point. Don't be tempted to buy 7x3 as they are most often for fabric and I haven't seen them tipped for sewing leather. Stitch length should be adjustable on the machine you have by a screw collar (or twisting knob) that restricts the travel of the forward/reverse lever.

Art

Hey all! This is probably a long shot... But I have an industrial heavy material machine and I can't use it. The stitches are too big, and it's too fast for me, though I do have the assembly for the belt to slow it down. I don't know anything about the big machines, so the bobbin cradle (can't remember what it's called) timing is off, and I don't know what needles it takes... I would like to acquire a Tippman Boss and am willing to trade for one. I paid $1700 for the industrial. If anyone is interested in trading or seeing this machine, pm me. I am in Indiana just outside Bloomington.

[abn]

I thought about keeping it so I could have the opportunity to blame everything on the Boss.

:biggrin:

[Tangent Creations]

Hey Art,

Thank you, I just got off the phone with Indianapolis Sewing Machine Co. and I'll be calling them back in about a week and a half to take the machine up there to have them look at it (the guy that works on them is on vacation right now...). I'll see what they have to say about it and go from there.

I've also been reading some of the posts about the Boss and would like to atleast try it out. Because of the non-use of our machine I do alot of hand stitching as it is and I would like a machine for it instead. My fingers get too sore to keep this up much longer!

[Art]

I use pliers, it takes a while to get used to using them, but once you learn it's just like using your fingers maybe not quite as fast.

While you are in Indianapolis. run over to the Tandy and try out the Boss, I think most stores have them, if not set up ask them to demo it for you.

Art

My fingers get too sore to keep this up much longer!

[Tangent Creations]

I used pliers for the mountainman rifle case I just made, I had no choice.

Do you go to that Tandy often? I have issues with the manager there, and my old Tandy (in FL) seemed to know what I was talking about, so I still order from them (on the rare occasion I order from Tandy).

[Art]

Hi,

I haven't been to that Tandy, don't live in that area, who is the manager?. I have been to quite a few of them, most managers are ok folks, some are a little full of themselves, but hey, ever talk to the average leather nut? Be that as it may, go to the store and make them show you the Boss, if they don't, call Jim Linnell and tell him they won't show it to you. A few words from Jim should straighten them out. TLF's are a good operation, unfortunately they are run by people and that can be a problem from both ends. I think if you get your machine running, you will forget about the Boss.

Art

I used pliers for the mountainman rifle case I just made, I had no choice.

Do you go to that Tandy often? I have issues with the manager there, and my old Tandy (in FL) seemed to know what I was talking about, so I still order from them (on the rare occasion I order from Tandy).

[Guest]

Guys,

For what it is worth. Rumor has it that Tandy is going to stop carrying the Boss and will be introducing a hand powered machine of their own. (Made in conjunction with Weaver?? not sure about that part of the story) It will be cheaper than the Boss and have a 18" deep throat. I'm going to hold off on getting a machine until I see their new one. Due some time in October or so the rumor goes.

Dave Theobald

[Prince]

Guys,

For what it is worth. Rumor has it that Tandy is going to stop carrying the Boss and will be introducing a hand powered machine of their own. (Made in conjunction with Weaver?? not sure about that part of the story) It will be cheaper than the Boss and have a 18" deep throat. I'm going to hold off on getting a machine until I see their new one. Due some time in October or so the rumor goes.

Dave Theobald

I also heard from a manager at tandy that they are discontinuing the boss in their stores and plan to introduce that new machine later this year. Supposed to be about the same price and deeper throat, and its supposed to address all the problems the tippmann boss had. I was thinking about saving up for one but I was able to find a like-new boss for $800 recently with several of the expensive of accessories. Didn't want to pass it up. I don't stitch all that often yet so it'll take a while to earn its keep but the convenience of having it is well worth it.

[Guest]

I also heard from a manager at tandy that they are discontinuing the boss in their stores and plan to introduce that new machine later this year. Supposed to be about the same price and deeper throat, and its supposed to address all the problems the tippmann boss had. I was thinking about saving up for one but I was able to find a like-new boss for $800 recently with several of the expensive of accessories. Didn't want to pass it up. I don't stitch all that often yet so it'll take a while to earn its keep but the convenience of having it is well worth it.

With several accessories that is a good price.

Dave

[Peter Ellis]

Guys,

For what it is worth. Rumor has it that Tandy is going to stop carrying the Boss and will be introducing a hand powered machine of their own. (Made in conjunction with Weaver?? not sure about that part of the story) It will be cheaper than the Boss and have a 18" deep throat. I'm going to hold off on getting a machine until I see their new one. Due some time in October or so the rumor goes.

Dave Theobald

When I picked up my Boss from Tandy, July 20, I got the rundown on them discontinuing carrying the Boss and the new machine they're making with Weaver. Throat will be deeper than on the Boss, but only by one inch or so more, not more than ten

What kind of price point I don't know. I did get the impression it was not going to have the accessory range available that Tippman offers.

And right now, at this moment, I might trade my Boss for a large rock. sigh. I ran two seams a quarter inch or so apart from one another, one after the other, changing nothing, and the first seam was good, the second one the bobbin thread is hanging out there on the bottom. No idea why the difference...

[Luke Hatley]

When I picked up my Boss from Tandy, July 20, I got the rundown on them discontinuing carrying the Boss and the new machine they're making with Weaver. Throat will be deeper than on the Boss, but only by one inch or so more, not more than ten

What kind of price point I don't know. I did get the impression it was not going to have the accessory range available that Tippman offers.

And right now, at this moment, I might trade my Boss for a large rock. sigh. I ran two seams a quarter inch or so apart from one another, one after the other, changing nothing, and the first seam was good, the second one the bobbin thread is hanging out there on the bottom. No idea why the difference...

Peter Sometimes the "Boss" has a mind of it's own.CALL TIPPMAN AND THEY WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WALK YOU THRU THE FIX... THEY HAVE FOR ME.. :beer: