Gusta1 Report post Posted September 25, 2019 Hello, I have to decide between these machines an adler 205 used in good condition or a typical 441 new.What do you look like? with which model is better?thanks for your opinion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted September 26, 2019 If you can afford the Adler, buy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted September 26, 2019 Adler 205 came in different subclasses - what subclass are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Constabulary said: Adler 205 came in different subclasses - what subclass are you talking about? Right again. The Adler should be either a 205-370 or a 205-374. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusta1 Report post Posted September 26, 2019 I don't care about Adler, I have one at home! alreadyI am also living in Argentina at 441 and Adler are difficult to buy because it is not easily achieved, as I am looking for it, if I can not get to 205-370 or 374, but I am very interested in your opinion!my adler's current photo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted September 26, 2019 There is no comparison between an Adler 30 and a 205 series. They are entirely different animals! Yours looks like my model 30-7. The class 30 is a medium duty "patcher" for repairs to shoes, boots and purses and for sewing embroidered patches over pockets on vests, or onto jacket sleeves. That's what I do with my Adler 30-7. It is limited to no more then 3/8 inch of leather (models 30-7 and 30-70 only, using extra long system 332 LLG needles), with #138 bonded thread and has top feed only. A full "large" bobbin of #138 thread only sews about 5 belts, or guitar straps, or rifle slings around the perimeter. The Adler 205-370 and 374 are compound (triple) feed walking foot machines made to sew 3/4 inch of leather with very heavy thread. A full bobbin of #277 thread can sew three or four times as much as the large bobbin patcher. It can handle up to #415 bonded thread. The Typical 441 Juki clone is similar to my Cowboy CB4500. These machines sew at least 3/4 inch with up to #415 thread. They are much cheaper than an Adler 205. Sadly, Adler stopped building that series a few years ago. I would go check out the Adler before investing in the Typical. If the Adler is in good sewing condition, it is the smoother machine with better tolerances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusta1 Report post Posted September 26, 2019 Yes, I know that they are different machines, so I want to have both to complement each other!In my country there are many problems with imports of Chinese products, so there are many specialists in old machines such as the Adler 205.I'm going to try to get an Adler 205 then, if I don't get it I'll try the Typical! Thank you very much for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtdewbre Report post Posted September 28, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 11:42 AM, Wizcrafts said: There is no comparison between an Adler 30 and a 205 series. They are entirely different animals! Yours looks like my model 30-7. The class 30 is a medium duty "patcher" for repairs to shoes, boots and purses and for sewing embroidered patches over pockets on vests, or onto jacket sleeves. That's what I do with my Adler 30-7. It is limited to no more then 3/8 inch of leather (models 30-7 and 30-70 only, using extra long system 332 LLG needles), with #138 bonded thread and has top feed only. A full "large" bobbin of #138 thread only sews about 5 belts, or guitar straps, or rifle slings around the perimeter. The Adler 205-370 and 374 are compound (triple) feed walking foot machines made to sew 3/4 inch of leather with very heavy thread. A full bobbin of #277 thread can sew three or four times as much as the large bobbin patcher. It can handle up to #415 bonded thread. The Typical 441 Juki clone is similar to my Cowboy CB4500. These machines sew at least 3/4 inch with up to #415 thread. They are much cheaper than an Adler 205. Sadly, Adler stopped building that series a few years ago. I would go check out the Adler before investing in the Typical. If the Adler is in good sewing condition, it is the smoother machine with better tolerances. Do you like the Cowboy as well as the Adler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted September 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, gtdewbre said: Do you like the Cowboy as well as the Adler? Well, yeah! I own a Cowboy CB4500. My only Adler is a 30-7 motorized patcher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtdewbre Report post Posted September 28, 2019 I see. I'm going to sell my Ferdco 440 and am trying to decide what I want to replace it with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
