Skiving machine - Fortuna vs. Fratelli Alberti vs. other brands

[RockyAussie]

I have had a look into the FAV AV2 range and found that they do have a model that has 2 motors on it. That model has a super suction on it. If you look at the bottom pictures on the second page in this pdf file you can see the one with the single motor and the double motors version.  http://www.fratellialberti.com/lang2/files/Depliant--AV1-AV2.pdf

I doubt there would be much issue in getting the aspirator to go with a single phase set up but you could probably get an answer by contacting the makers.

Here below are a couple of pictures I took today of mine with the single motor set up

From the back showing the drive pulley to the left and the vacuum extractor to the right.

Close up on the motor

Hope that helps some

Brian

 

 

[Leatherbag]

Hello,

last year came Corona and other priorities, so I now continue with my skiving machine search.

After I have now looked for over a year throughout Germany for used Fortuna / Fratelli Alberti and always found only ancient, half rusted devices, I had finally decided to buy a new China machine (Global SK111) from a very nice and competent dealer. Just before I was about to buy it, I learned that these machines are now available in a new version: Instead of one servo motor with V-belt, there are now two DC servo motors installed directly on the machine head, so that knife and feed can be controlled separately (I'll attach a pdf with all information about that machine but I would buy it without aspiratior because it would be too loud for my neighbours and I dont have enough space for it.). This machine costs about 600 euros more than the basic version with one motor.
However, my dealer says he finds the result nicer with the 1-motor machine. He says that if the knife rotates so fast, the skived area would look like polished/burned. He recommends me the 1-motor machine with a good servo motor that you can adjust slowly and to keep the knife very sharp. His youtube videos using this 1-motor machine with slow servo motor look great (he sharpens very slowly around the curves), but I'm reading all over this and other forums that it's a nicer result to have the knife running at top speed. The dealer is over 300km away and currently he only has another China brand in stock which I don't want.
Does anyone have experience with these 2 motor machines? Do you think it's worth the extra cost or should I better take the basic version (in an emergency I could add a second motor myself, but then of course that's the less elegant solution).
I'm still not 100% convinced by the china machines, but the dealer is rebuilding a few things to make them safer and better and I would get a detailed briefing from him. I think that I have no other choice, because there seems to be no better alternatives in the whole of Germany.

Any help would be really appreciated, I am still pretty overwhelmed.

Greetings from Germany

SW-801E-ENG-ESP.pdf

Edited March 21, 2021 by Leatherbag

[Leatherbag]

22 hours ago, Leatherbag said:

...there are now two DC servo motors installed directly on the machine headhttps://leatherworker.net/forum/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=176931

Ooops, I did not mean DC servo motors but DIRECT DRIVE Servo motors...:)

[Pats83]

I am also thinking about getting a skiving machine later this year. What was your final decision?

 

Thanks a lot.