Bant Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Howdy Folks. I need a recommendation for a stitching Groover to use in the center of a project. When working close to the edge I've got that covered, just haven't done any stitching in central areas. Guess I should mention that I hand stitch only. Thanx! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bant Report post Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Well, my initial post didn't blow air up anyone's knickers, so let's try this. Does anyone have any experience with this tool? https://www.stecksstore.com/freehand-stitching-groover-88074-11/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkomo9aqG6AIVkZOzCh3sdAtGEAkYCSABEgJqYPD_BwE Edited March 11, 2020 by Bant still can't spell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted March 11, 2020 No experience of that one. I use these - link below. I buy them by the 5 so I always have a sharp one to hand. Although they say 'edge beveler' they make an excellent V groove, as can been seen in their photo https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5Pcs-Working-Hand-Leather-Edge-Skiving-DIY-Craft-Keen-Edge-Beveler-Silver-Tools/352887641342?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=622143640519&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bant Report post Posted March 11, 2020 Sir, many thanks for Your response! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugadude Report post Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Bant said: Well, my initial post didn't blow air up anyone's knickers, so let's try this. Does anyone have any experience with this tool? https://www.stecksstore.com/freehand-stitching-groover-88074-11/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkomo9aqG6AIVkZOzCh3sdAtGEAkYCSABEgJqYPD_BwE That groover is OK, but you have to use a straight edge and keep it at a constant angle. If you "wobble", the groove will as well. Best to practice so that you know how it will behave. 4 hours ago, fredk said: No experience of that one. I use these - link below. I buy them by the 5 so I always have a sharp one to hand. Although they say 'edge beveler' they make an excellent V groove, as can been seen in their photo https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5Pcs-Working-Hand-Leather-Edge-Skiving-DIY-Craft-Keen-Edge-Beveler-Silver-Tools/352887641342?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=622143640519&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 I've wondered about those. They are certainly cheap enough. I presume that they can be sharpened like the "typical" beveler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted March 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tugadude said: I've wondered about those. They are certainly cheap enough. I presume that they can be sharpened like the "typical" beveler? yup, they shure can, but I'm terrible at actually managing it thus I just buy and have a quantity of sharp ones handy. They do a lovely edge bevel too, much better than my old 'proper' one. These come in a U shape as well for U shaped sewing grooves. They are small enough, only about 4 inches long, to fit the hand and are easily maneuverable. Use a straight-edge for straight-aways and freehand on curves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted March 11, 2020 I use the one bellow in your link, the one they call pro stitching tool ( I don´t find anything pro about it??) with the fence off and up against a cardboard template for example if i am in from the edge like so.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugadude Report post Posted March 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, fredk said: yup, they shure can, but I'm terrible at actually managing it thus I just buy and have a quantity of sharp ones handy. They do a lovely edge bevel too, much better than my old 'proper' one. These come in a U shape as well for U shaped sewing grooves. They are small enough, only about 4 inches long, to fit the hand and are easily maneuverable. Use a straight-edge for straight-aways and freehand on curves this technique works pretty good and if you use them a lot, is worth fashioning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted March 11, 2020 Thanks for that To the OP, this is another alternative. I do have one of these and I find it handy to do a free-hand sewing groove when the sewing line is tight up next to a shaped bit*. The bit that follows the edge is removable, leaving the groover free, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-7-In-1-Adjustable-Stitching-Groover-Crease-Leather-Lot-Leather-Tools-Ki-B9B6/233416477077?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190711095549%26meid%3Dc3bfd89e5f9a496ab782f87669caa18f%26pid%3D100047%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D233299625232%26itm%3D233416477077%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSellersOtherItemsV2%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100047.m2108 * eg; when a case is wet moulded in two parts around an object and the two sides need sewn together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted March 11, 2020 It also depends whether you want to cut a groove or just indent one into the leather? The one the op linked to only indents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bant Report post Posted March 12, 2020 Gentlemen, thanks much for the responses. I'm merely a hobbist but have been asked to do a knife sheath with a snake skin inlay on the front. So, what's left of my mind, has told me that instead of just gluing the snake skin to the back side ofthe sheath, it would be a good idea to to stitch around the perimeter as well. That led me to the thoughtthat a groove forthe stitches would be a good idea. Thus the genesis of the original question. That being said, I'm wide open to suggestions as to how to procede. I just don't want to screw this up as the skin is a stunning example of Copperhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanch Report post Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 6:24 PM, dikman said: It also depends whether you want to cut a groove or just indent one into the leather? The one the op linked to only indents. AGREED. The one I purchased when I first started is an actual "groover" it cuts a groove into the leather so your stitches lay below the surface of the leather. @Bant If you zoom in you can see the tiny hole and cutting edge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
