Yea horween makes a great product. Most of their leathers are chrome/ veg re- tan. They are just very hard to pin down and actually get leather to you, unless you are doing high volume. I just started ordering from Maverick leather in CA, they stock horween leathers at prices comparable to tannery prices (for small amounts, 100 sq ft or less). As far as others go, who knows. A lot of tanneries only do very large volume orders, so you need to purchase through a reseller unless you have a serious operation going. A pinned list would be fantastic though. As far as saddleback goes, they are pretty vague about their sources, and since their actual products aren't made in USA. and they state that it is the same tannery that timberland gets their leather from, it's probably overseas. I may be wrong though. Not knocking them btw.