Pic. 1. I started the first pair, (the dyed ones), and I felt the leather was too thin for the heavy duty looking hardware. Also, the width on the straps was off about 1/8", which meant they wouldn't fit through the buckles. So, I started over. Pic. 2. Is the new 8/9 oz. leather straps for the suspenders. This leather is a bit to thick, so I am going to have to skive down the ends that get riveted. Instead of the leather "Y", I think I am going to adjoin the three straps at a large brass ring. I haven't totally decided that yet.